"b.n." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > The reason why Debian started this is the missing will for quality oriented
> > cooperation by a single person: "Eduard Bloch".
> > 
> > The reason why other Linux distributions followed Debian is that they 
> > believed
> > the lies spread by Eduard Bloch.
> >
> > I see a good cooperation with 99.99% of the Linux commuinity but there are 
> > some
> > Trolls who attack me. It seems that once you do a lot of work, some people 
> > become jealous and start to attack you. Doing popular things seems to imply 
> > that you become the target of attacks.
>
> I didn't follow the whole licence issue, nor I don't care that much
> about that (I was just explaining what I know from the Internet). The
> problem, as it seemed, is that you and Bloch staunchly refused to settle
> down the issue somehow. Please correct me if it's wrong.

Mr. Bloch started several attacks against the cdrtools project and he did this 
in an extremely unfair way. He spread unproven and untrue claims about cdrtools.

> But I don't buy the "people that attack me is just jealous/trolling"
> argument, sorry. Assuming good faith is always better. To tell "I'm
> right and B is lying" is quite trollish too. To tell "I'm right, B

If I was not informed about the background I may have thought in a similar way.

But please tell me what you would do if you have been attacked in an unfair way?

It is usual not to believe unproven claims, but why do so many people believe
the unproven claims from Mr. Bloch? The problem with all the attacks was that 
the people around Mr. Bloch spread vague unproven claims as usual in 
calumniation campaigns. When asked to prove their claims, they either started
with new vague attacks or stopped answering. This would not be a problem if 
people would not believe unproven claims.....

The real reason behind the attacks from Mr. Bloch is missing will for 
cooperation. As he did not like this to be in relation with his name, he started
to spread the fairy tale about "license problems".

Interestingly, Eben Moglen (law professor) says that what cdrtools do is OK in 
general. Lawyers asked by distributors of the original cdrtools say that there
is no problem in special. Some people still believe the "legal opinion" from a 
laymen like Mr. Bloch.


> The problem, however, is that -being it your fault or not- that incident
> somehow made hard for some people to rely on your tools. :(

You cannot rely on the fork because it is full of bugs that never have been 
in the original software and because no bugs are fixed since nearly 6 months.

You cannot rely on it because it has been initiated by people who attack free 
software.

Jörg

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