geowolf wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 5:13 AM, robpd <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> We have a large and ever-expanding set of points to show on a web-map.
>>  The
>> number of points grows by the day and some points change location by the
>> day.  Each point has some associated textual metadata to show on a
>> point-and-click basis on the map.
>>
>> So, as indicated in other posts, I want a WMS service (using SLDs) for
>> the
>> rendering and a WFS service for the point interrogation.  However, here
>> are
>> the wrinkles..
>>
>> (a) How can we ensure that only the tiles that need to change in response
>> to
>> new/changed points do so?
>>
>> (b) We have our own (high speed) point clustering solution to provide
>> point-clusters at most zoom levels - as we want to display just cluster
>> centres at most zoom-levels (apart from the most 'zoomed-in'). Is there a
>> better point-clustering alternative available in GeoServer?  Could I use
>> my
>> own clusters for the different zoom levels?
>>
>> (c) From time to time we may wish to completely recluster all points
>> (like
>> b) - thus leading to the need to replenish all tiles.
>>
>> Right now it's a green-fields situation so I'm looking for any
>> architectural
>> suggestions that use Geoserver and Geowebcache.  Any suggestions as to
>> the
>> main building blocks I should be using (including storage etc)?
>>
>> Would be grateful of some direction.  Thanks.
> 
> - If you're in need for very high performance and you are going to setup a
> cluster
> - you could have a look at a memory based store (eventually distributed
> among the
> - cluster nodes) whose contents would be updated
> - by some messaging system (JMS is one of the many options).
> - Being memory based it would serve at top speed both WMS and WFS
> requests.
> - A GeoServer plugin listening to the same messages that wipes out
> selected tiles
> - out of the integrated GWC could be added too, it would work in a similar
> - fashion to the current WFS-T integration.
> 
> Thanks for your reply Andrea.  So I think that you're saying that we could
> send geographical updates (new and modified points) to the server clusters
> using something like JMS whereupon each server would publish the updates
> to the GeoServer plugins (using WFS). Right?  And each server could use a
> memory-based store like, for example, PostGIS with memory tables?
> 
> - As for point clustering you could try to look into rendering
> - transformations, they
> - are designed to perform this kind of work exactly:
> - http://docs.codehaus.org/display/GEOTOOLS/Rendering+transformations
> - So far we used them to turn rasters into a variety of vector based
> - displays (contour
> - lines, wind arrows, classified polygons) and for on the fly image
> - georeferencing,
> - point clustering is definitely somethign we'd like to see happening too.
> 
> I looked at the link. Seems like a way of embedding functions (that map
> collections to collections) into SLD so that the processed results can be
> rendered in a specific way. Right?  Though this paradigm would work in
> theory for any such processes, it seems to me that, given that this is
> used to render tiles, the processes must inherently be fast-performers. 
> So I think perhaps it could be used with some of the most rapid cluster
> algorithms to produce point-clouds.  One thing it could definitely be used
> for would be to appropriate newly added points into existing clusters. 
> The cluster polygons would already exist, so it should be fast to
> appropriate the new points to them using these interfaces.  Seems to imply
> that to use the interfaces etc for clustering would need a one-time (or
> infrequent) 'start-up' clustering job followed by frequent updates of any
> new points to the existing clusters.
> 
> 
> - Cheers
> - Andrea
> 
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