Ciao Justin, as on Open Source project (and also given the "style" of the message and responses we are seeeing) we can just do three things:
1> state once again that the announced project is a fork, or better an *hostile* fork 2> ignore their messages from now on 3> do what we think it's best for geotools I wish them all the possible best, Simone ------------------------------------------------------- Ing. Simone Giannecchini GeoSolutions S.A.S. Owner - Software Engineer Via Carignoni 51 55041 Camaiore (LU) Italy phone: +39 0584983027 fax: +39 0584983027 mob: +39 333 8128928 http://www.geo-solutions.it http://simboss.blogspot.com/ http://www.linkedin.com/in/simonegiannecchini ------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Martin Desruisseaux <martin.desruisse...@geomatys.fr> wrote: > Hello Justin > > Don't worry, it was our only anouncement. Personnaly, I will sign off from all > GeoTools mailing list soon, when it will look like that no question is going > to > be asked (not necessarly about geotoolkit - it could have been about the > future > of the referencing module for instance). > > I realize that a lot of peoples worked very hard on GeoTools. But Justin, with > all the respect that I own to your work, to Andrea's work and all other, very > sincerly I believe that I probably gave more of my life to GeoTools 2 than > anyone else in this community. > > Also from the last statement in your second paragraph, its look like that you > do > not realize that the vast majority of the work that I migrated to Geotoolkit > up > to date was my own work - while I aknowledge the good work of Rueben Schulz on > projections (especially testings) and Remi Eve on WKT parsing. The most > controversial part - namely the Refraction's work on multithreading EPSG > factory > - has been discarted and rewrote from scratch. The geotoolkit coverage module > contains only the core that I wrote myself, with very few exceptions (mostly > ImageWorker, which I also rewrote completly anyway). > > Obviously the fork is not approved by the PMC, but few forks are approved by > the > original project. Nevertheless this is part of OpenSource life, and the > history > of OpenSource has many examples of forks that became more widely adopted than > the original project: Inkscape forked from Sodipodi (who remember Sodipodi > now?), Xorg forked from XFree86, etc. > > Some GeoTools users and developers may move to Geotoolkit, but if such move > occurs massively it would confirm that the need for a cleaned library existed. > If this need does not exist, then most users will not migrate and GeoTools has > nothing to fear. However the private emails of support that we got give us the > feeling that we are going in a good direction - we were not the only one > incomfortable with the state of GeoTools. > > You could see benefit from that fork: less hard debates on the mailing list, > more freedom to apply you own changes one your clone of the code if you wish, > and you have an opportunity to make the GeoTools build lighter by deleting > some > modules, eventually replacing some of them by dependencies toward fixed > geotoolkit releases (so more stability on your side). > > Regards, > > Martin > > > > > Justin Deoliveira a écrit : >> Am I the only one who feels that making Geotoolkit announcements on this >> list is inappropriate? I understand that you have your reasons for >> forking, and I respect that. But this fork was in no way authorized or >> approved by the GeoTools PSC. >> >> This is just my opinion, but this seems more or less like an attempt to >> poach resources from the GeoTools community, which I have serious issue >> with. Many people have put a lot of hard work in building the geotools >> library into what it is. You have publicly stated that the end result of >> this work is "not good enough" in so many words. Doing that and then >> using resources that those same people have worked long and hard to >> build goes against the spirit of good will that we are trying to maintain. >> >> The other PSC members may disagree with me here, but I would prefer that >> you use other forums for making these sorts of announcements. >> >> -Justin > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Register Now & Save for Velocity, the Web Performance & Operations > Conference from O'Reilly Media. 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