On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 07:49:25AM +0200, Christian Couder wrote:

> > And so here the convention is simpler, because we're talking about the
> > main HEAD. But we still have know if you want to do that, and not update
> > some refs/remotes/ symref in a bare repo.
> 
> We could maybe look at the "remote.XXX.mirror" config option. If it is
> set to "true", we could interpret that as meaning we are interested in
> updating the main HEAD and not some refs/remotes/ symref.

Yeah, for the mirror case I think that would be sufficient, and that's a
subset of the larger problem. I'm not _totally_ opposed to solving just
this narrow case, but I think it would be great if we could solve the
larger problem.

> >   # or the same thing but using the usual refspec "dst defaults to src"
> >   # rule and dwim lookup magic
> >   git fetch origin ~LATEST
> 
> And `git fetch origin ~HEAD` would sync the main HEAD?

Yes, exactly.

> I wonder though if we should restrict the way `git fetch origin ~XXX`
> searches the .git/ directory itself.

The matching is done against the list of refs that the remote
advertises. So everything is under refs/ except for HEAD. If you tried
to do something funky with top-level refs like:

  git fetch origin ~MERGE_HEAD

it would always come up with "couldn't find remote ref MERGE_HEAD".

> I wonder what `git fetch origin ~refs/heads/*:refs/heads/*` should do.
> Could it know which refs are symrefs using protocol v0? Should it
> guess that refs with uppercase names are symrefs? Should we allow '*'
> at all in those kinds of refspecs?

That's an interesting question. I'd be tempted to say that it is an
error to use "~" with a wildcard ref, at least for the first version of
the patch. That way we don't back ourselves into a corner, and can make
it do something useful later.

I think one sane set of rules is:

 - for protocol v2+, where we know which remote refs are symrefs,
   transfer them as symrefs

 - for protocol v0, either transfer them as normal refs (except HEAD,
   which we always suspect of being a symref), or simply declare it
   an error

For the most part, though, I think people would be fine without
combining wildcards with the symref feature, and would just do:

  +refs/*:refs/*
  ~HEAD:HEAD

for a bare mirror, and:

  +refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/origin/*
  ~HEAD:refs/remotes/origin/HEAD

for an auto-updating non-bare remote.

> It looks like making "~" the magic character for "just the symrefs"
> might be a good solution in the end, though we might want to restrict
> it to protocol v2.
> So perhaps something like `git fetch --update-head` that you suggest
> in another email would be a good solution for now and for protocol v0.

You still have the problem with --update-head of where to store the
result. I think the semantics for a non-wildcard "~" are clear enough,
even with protocol v0, that it would be OK to start down that road.

A few final thoughts:

 - I like the look of "~", but there are not very many characters
   disallowed in refs, and we're using one of them. Another notable one
   is "^", from which we've built the "^{foo}" syntax elsewhere. So this
   could be something like "^{symref}HEAD:HEAD", which leaves room for
   new "^{}" types in the future. But man, that looks really ugly
   compared to "~HEAD:HEAD".

 - Is there a case for a symref update where we'd want to require a
   force-push? Maybe if the local side exists and is not already a
   symref?

 - What do we do if the other side isn't a symref (e.g., a detached
   HEAD)? Is that an error? Do we detach ourselves? Does it require a
   force?

-Peff

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