On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Sally Morris <
sa...@morris-assocs.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> We should not delude ourselves; journals can only be 'free' if someone pays
> the costs.
>
> All the work involved in creating and running a journal has to be paid for
> somehow - they don't magically go away if a journal is e-only (in fact,
> there are some new costs, even though some of the old ones disappear).
>
> I can only see three options for who pays:  reader-side (e.g. the library);
> author-side (e.g. publication fees);  or 'fairy godmother' (e.g. sponsor).
>

There is a fourth option, which works: the scholarly community manage
publication through contributed labour and resources and the net amount of
cash is near-zero. This is described in
http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/pamphlet/2012/03/06/an-efficient-journal/where
the J. Machine Learning Research is among the highest regarded
journals in the area (top 7%) and free-to-authors and free-to-readers.
There is an enlightening debate (on this URL) between those who run the
journal and Kent Anderson of the Scholarly Kitchen who cannot believe that
people will run and work for journals for the good of the community.

There is no law of physics that says this doesn't scale. It is simply that
most scholars would rather the taxpayer and students paid for the
administration publishing (either as author-side or reader-side) so the
scholars don't have to do the work. And they've managed ot get 10 B USD per
year. If scholars regarded publishing as part of their role, of if they
were prepared to involved the wider community (as Wikipedia has done) we
could have a much more C21 type of activity - innovative and valuable to
the whole world rather than just academia. It would cost zero, but it would
be much cheaper than any current model.

And of course we now have a complete free map of the whole world (
openstreetmap.org) which is so much better than other alternatives that
many people and organizations are switching to it. And, for many years, it
didn't have a bank account and existed on "marginal resources" from UCL
(and probably still does).

But most people will regard this as another fairy tale.

>
>
-- 
Peter Murray-Rust
Reader in Molecular Informatics
Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry
University of Cambridge
CB2 1EW, UK
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