Although I often disagree with Beall and share the concerns of OA colleagues about his list, two comments:
It is appropriate to ask about business interests. When Elsevier comments on open access policy, it is important to know that their perspective is likely influenced by financial motives. This principle applies just as much to existing and emerging OA initiatives. When citing an article one should first cite the first author. Beall was correct to critique Eric for not mentioning the first author. The accusation of racism was not helpful. my two bits, Heather Morrison On Oct 3, 2015, at 5:56 AM, "Chris Zielinski" <ziggytheb...@gmail.com<mailto:ziggytheb...@gmail.com>> wrote: I have no personal involvement in this issue (other than being aghast when SciELO appeared on the List of Predatory Journals recently - it now seems to have been removed, after multiple protests) and don't know any of the participants personally, but I can't be the only one who finds this post from Beall outrageous, with its insinuations that Archambault has a financial motive for his post, and may be racist. Archambault's reply is far, far too polite! Chris Chris Zielinski ch...@chriszielinski.com<mailto:ch...@chriszielinski.com> Blogs: http://ziggytheblue.wordpress.com and http://ziggytheblue.tumblr.com Research publications: http://www.researchgate.net On 2 October 2015 at 15:55, Beall, Jeffrey <jeffrey.be...@ucdenver.edu<mailto:jeffrey.be...@ucdenver.edu>> wrote: Eric: I have two questions. 1. For the record, does your for-profit business or do you personally have any business relationship with any of the publishers or journals on my lists? If so, which ones? 2. In your email you refer to a recently-published article, and you name and discuss the second author, but you fail to mention or credit the lead and corresponding author, Cenyu Shen. Was this because of his race? Jeffrey Beall From: goal-boun...@eprints.org<mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org> [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org<mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org>] On Behalf Of Éric Archambault Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 7:38 AM To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci <goal@eprints.org<mailto:goal@eprints.org>> Subject: [GOAL] Need for a new beginning Dear list members: What started as a one-man, useful list that identified “Potential, possible, or probable predatory scholarly open-access publishers”, which Jeffrey himself further qualifies as a “list of questionable, scholarly open-access publishers”, has now overshot its usefulness. We need a new beginning. If these publishers are questionable, let’s find a mechanism to question them, and let’s, at the very least, document their answers. Currently, this list of Release Date: 10/01/15 _______________________________________________ GOAL mailing list GOAL@eprints.org<mailto:GOAL@eprints.org> http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal _______________________________________________ GOAL mailing list GOAL@eprints.org<mailto:GOAL@eprints.org> http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal
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