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--- Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This is to remind ourselves that the notion that a
> moral compass or social conscience is dependent on
> adherence to some form of ideology, religion or
> atheistic belief system, has been thoroughly
> discredited in this and other Goan forums. 
> 
> It has also been shown that no religion, ideology or
> atheistic belief system has ever had a rock-solid
> moral compass.
> 
Mario responds:
>
I agree with Santosh's redundant reminder that an
individual's moral compass is theoretically not
dependent on any ideology or religious or
non-religious belief, and that the results can be the
same on a day-to-day basis.
>
However, I must have missed "been shown" that there is
no "rock solid" religious moral compass.  By
definition an individual unorganized atheist, as
opposed to defined and highly organized atheist groups
like the Buddhists and Jains and others that function
very much like religions, cannot have anything that
can be called a rock solid moral compass because it is
whatever the unorganized individual says it is.
>
The difference in my opinion is one of checks and
balances.  For example, Christians have a rock-solid
"Golden Rule" and also a rock solid list of Ten
Commandments.  While individual Christians may follow
their own course, doing so comes with religious
consequences for a practicing Christian.  Similarly,
organized atheists groups like Buddhists and Jains
have rock solid standards for their members.
>
Individual unorganized atheists MAY have what could be
summarized as the "Seven Suggestions" that overlap
similar strictures in the Ten Commandments.  However,
these carry no consequences by any organized and
influential group other than those imposed by civil or
criminal law.
>


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