--- cornel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The suggestion that if the Axis powers had won the > war in 1945, many would be speaking German is a > possibility and you Japanese. So would the > Americans speak German as Hitler definitely > intended world domination which included America. > He was after all a "rock solid Christian." > Mario responds: > Regardless of what Hitler and Cornel may claim., Hitler did not live by any of the tenets of the rock solid Christian moral code, and so it is patently absurd to call him a rock solid Christian. > Cornel says that Stalin and the Mafioso are Christians because they were born Christians. But, in Cornel's special world, the same logic apparently does not apply to Cornel and Kevin who were also born Christians, or to Santosh and Vivek and Radha who were apparently born Hindus. This is consistent with Cornel's Law, which holds that all truth is like silly-putty, to be molded as convenient. > Cornel writes: > > ...I feel impelled to respond to one of Mario's > utterly absurd repetitions that, because Christians > supposedly follow a Christian moral code, it is > possible to anticipate how they will behave (as > per their code) while this cannot be said for > atheists until they are arrested for infringments > of the law and get arrested. > Mario responds: > What Cornel obviously feels compelled to do is to misrepresent what I said, with absurd comments which raise questions about his ability to comprehend simple English. > My position has been made crystal clear as any of my posts on this subject in the archives will show to anyone but Cornel. My ONLY position on this issue is that we are unable to make facile moral equivalencies between the well-known moral codes of morally based organizations and that of unorganized, individual atheists and agnostics, who make up their own. > In one case we know what the codes are, whereas in the latter case we only know what moral code the individual is following if they get arrested. In between, who knows, as we have nothing to compare them with. > I never said anything anywhere about being able to anticipate anyone'e behavior based on the moral code they subscribe to. > Cornel insists that all atheists are moral, which is an aburd assumption. In the meantime, Elisabeth has demanded that atheists and agnostics not be called evil because they never agreed to be good in the first place. Whatever people do can be defined and re-defined as convenient, she says. To the rest of us this is simply moral relativism. > --- cornel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Has it ever struck you that in the contemporary > world, war is not a step to bring about peaceful > resolutions to conflict and that the way to bring > this about is primarily through diplomacy, however > hard this may appear to be? > Mario responds: > Cornel should know that the only lasting peace in the world followed the defeat of the Axis of Evil, Germany, Japan and Italy, who were forced to surrrender at the end of WW-II, and are now peaceful and democratic countries. There has never been any lasting peace between implacable enemies without such a defeat and surrender. Kashmir, Palestine and Timor are good examples of this. >
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