i missed "nOT" and the line shuoukd read, "lSFX MAY HAVE nOT personally presided over it......." I said "progenitor" because SFX suggested it to be firced in Goa. St. Dominic is the brain behind the Inquisition. I now remember the book's name, Goa: Continuity and Change, edited by Prof Narendra Wagle and George Coelho. Wagle was Head of South Asian Dept, UoT, and Coelho was, I belueve, attached ti the BpNaval Hospital in Washington, DC
Eugene Correia --- On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 8:09 AM Eugene Correia <eugene.corr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Gilbert deserves to have his say. His views can be debated. > Teo was not polemically against SFX, but in the light of the Inquisition > SFX is seen as the progenitor of thus sorry chapter in Christianity. SFX > may have personally presided over it, but the Jesuits were resonsible. > I heard David Higgs soeak at the conference organized at tge University Of > Toronto y IGO and UoT, undrr Prof. Narendra Wagle. I spoke to tge Prof. and > he showed me a book on the Inquisition that was lublished just prior to the > convention. He has an essay in the book ( forgets its name and I have it > but have to look for it) that folliwed, edited by Wagle and George. > If you have followed Teo, he was troubled by its vast massacre of Goans, > since the Hindus and Muslims, were Goans after all. No wonder, the Hindhs > in particular often resort to the evil of Inquisition and blamed the Goa > church for its implementation. > AK Priorlar may be biased, but he's instrumebtal in fanning the flames of > hatred for the Church. Teo looked sr it from a socio-religious issue. > > Eugene > > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Feb 25, 2019, at 6:51 PM, Roland Francis <roland.fran...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Gilbert has indulged in a ‘Shoot The Messenger’ exercise by confusing > the roles of those who have created history and those who critically > analyze what has been recorded by others. In comparing Francis Xavier with > Teotónio DeSouza and even imagining them duking it out man-to-man in some > imaginary place we all go to when we die, Gilbert has let his imagination > run wild. > > > > In addition, Gilbert seems to have lionized the actions of SFX (because > he was ordained a saint by some crazy Pope of the time of which there were > plenty no doubt) and going by the results of Xavier’s actions that he sees > today, little caring about how they were achieved. A case of ends justify > the means. > > > > I doubt our ancestors converted to Catholicism in the thousands with the > presence, some words and the wave of a magic wand by Xavier. > > To anyone who assumes this was achieved without manipulation, coercion > or reward that amounted to taking advantage of vulnerable people, I say > dream on. > > > > I do not imply that other zealous rulers and their fanatical followers > and minions (in fact Francis brought with himself more power than the local > Portuguese ruler would have had) whether Mussalman or Hindu, did not do the > same thing. All I am saying is that Gilbert found himself a Roman Catholic > without definitively knowing how his ancestors converted. And converted > they must have been. > > > > He assumes they went to some prayer meeting where they heard pleasing > words and decided to change their way of life. Teotonio says they converted > due to some nasty things that resulted from Xavier. > > > > I am more inclined logically and critically to follow Teotónio’s line of > thinking. > > > > > > Gilbert Lawrence wrote: > > “As I have written before, Teo's account of the Catholic Church, Jesuits > and SFX would be read as an account of a divorced man who is writing about > his ex-wife family. These issues some of us raised with Teo over the last > few years, with no clarification. Some may think this is writing about a > person who cannot defend himself. Yet, that is precisely what Teo does to > St. Francis Xavier, his work and writings. Perhaps now both of them can > square it out themselves mano -o- mano. Yet one person sacrificed and > endured for Jesus. While the other pontificated about Him. I am only > talking about Teo the historian and his work which will be quoted > extensively.” > > > > Roland Francis > > 416-453-3371 > > >