By: Karan Thapar
Date: May 11, 2024
Published in: *The Wire*
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaqEX-OVDt0
*Note*: The transcript is embedded in the source


"In an interview to discuss and analyze the often bizarre and inexplicable
things said by Prime Minister Modi in his election speeches, Sunanda K.
Datta-Ray, a former Editor of The Statesman, has said Modi is 'an unashamed
showman … a great actor' who makes 'dramatic statements for the moment'. He
said the Prime Minister’s response to Sam Pitroda’s claim that south
Indians resemble Africans – which the Prime Minister called a *badi gaali *–
suggests 'a frog in a well' attitude to the outside world. He said the
Prime Minister looks upon Muslims as 'outsiders, not belonging to India,
not bhumiputras'.

Mr. Datta-Ray said the Prime Minister’s speeches are 'appealing to voters
at the lowest common denominator'. He said they are 'an unabashed appeal to
gut instinct'. At another point he said the Prime Minister is 'pandering to
the instinct of the majority of Indians who are Hindus'.

Asked by The Wire in a 23-minute interview whether he has ever heard
earlier prime ministers make speeches attacking Muslims, casting aspersions
on top industrialists by name and objecting to being considered similar to
Africans, Mr. Datta-Ray replied with a blunt 'no', agreeing this was 'a low
point'.

Mr. Datta-Ray also said honour demands that Adani and Ambani should take
legal action against the Prime Minister for claiming they are in possession
of and purveyors of black money and *chori ka maal.* 'It is for them to
take action against the PM legally in the courts'. I am only giving you the
main big points made by Mr. Datta-Ray. There is a substantial discussion of
Mr. Modi’s claim that Adani and Ambani have sent tempo-loads of black money
and *chori ka maal* to Rahul Gandhi and the Congress Party. There’s also a
discussion of Mr. Modi’s claim that Congress wants to decide the membership
of the Indian cricket team on the basis of religion. Similarly, there’s a
discussion about Mr. Modi’s reference to Indian Muslims as people 'who have
more children' and 'infiltrators' as well as his claim that reservations
meant for SCs, STs and OBCs will be snatched and given to Muslims. I will
leave you to see all of that from the interview itself."

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