Hi Bosco
Please see interspersed responses.
Cornel
Bosco D'Mello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Thu Oct 25 01:46:18 PDT 2007, CORNEL DACOSTA wrote:
> Irrespective of whether he may receive answers or not, Albert
> de Souza has an inalienable human right to seek information
> about the finances relating to the office of the Bishop of Goa.
CORNEL: This response of mine was a specific reply to Eric Pinto who had
absurdly claimed that Albert had "forfeited his right" to seek info about
Church finances.
RESPONSE: Then by the same logic........ Kishore Kumar in Bihar and Ataullah
in Ratnagiri have an inalienable human right to seek information about the
finances relating to the office of the Bishop of Goa?
CORNEL: My logic related specifically to the point made by Eric Pinto. It was
particularistic and not generalistic. Whether the logic applies to Kishore is
debatable but I would not make such a claim. I think my logic is pretty clear
and specific to the context in which I made it re Eric Pinto. Do think about it!
what is this "Albert de Souza has an inalienable human right" vis-a-vis the
Bishop of Goa?
I'll agree that Albert has an inalienable right to write utter nonsense here
at Goanet, until the Rules are changed.
CORNEL: I don't agree much with what Albert says but I am damned if I accept
Eric Pinto's explanation that Albert has "forfeited his right" to make an
enquiry. Is Eric some kind of oracle? Perhaps you are being misled in this
discussion and should focus on Eric's contention. Please, will you do so?
> whenever and wherever monies are involved one key principle
> is accountability whether by convention or legal requirement
> Any 'infringement' of this principle risks putting individuals
> and institutions into disrepute.The Catholic Church is not exempt
> from this kind of requirement in Goa
RESPONSE: Are you certain the Catholic Church in Goa has not met its legal
accountability requirements? If it has not, what legal statutes has the
Catholic Church violated?
CORNEL: Not for a moment have I said or am I saying that the Catholic Church
in Goa has not met its financial obligations to whomsoever it matters. I am
simply questioning Eric Pinto's contention that it is not necessary to do
because of his totally unrelated example from America. Did you not note his
absurd example of the woman who left money for some institution? I am surprised
you do not ask the simple question as you seem to ask me about the thread and
relevance to Eric.
> Interestingly, Fr Loiola, working for the Bishop's Office,
> did volunteer on Goanet, some information on the matter.
RESPONSE: Fr Loiola is a fine man and may I suggest you visit him at Altinho
on one of your future visits to Goa instead of "ringing" him from the UK.
CORNEL: Fr Loiola may indeed be a fine man as you say and I don't doubt you
for a moment. Unfortunately however, despite several reminders, he failed to
reply to me even privately and even out of simple courtesy. Is this what a fine
man normally does? I doubt it! Further, I don't need to visit him in Altinho or
anywhere. I can, if I choose to, ring him just as he can ring me if he so
chooses as he has two numbers of mine!. The matter cuts both ways without
privileging anybody. Why on earth did you think there was any onus on me, even
suggestively, to visit him in Goa? Is there some kind of one-way expectation?
> Indeed, the Vatican has a poor reputation on the principle of
> financial accountability
RESPONSE: This thread is about the visit of the Archbishop of Goa to San
Francisco that has left some in a tizzy. Drawing the Vatican into this
thread is a misnomer.
CORNEL: Not at all my dear Bosco. The proposition of non accountability in Goa
as tacitly implied by Eric Pinto is highly questionable. As the Vatican has got
itself in several messes over financial accountability, I am sure we would not
want it to get into a further mess by one of its constituent churches in Goa by
not perhaps having financial accountability. The same applies when a single
priest in any part of the world gets criminalised because of paedophilia. The
Vatican can't say ah but that happened well outside the Vatican. The business
of the Church whether in Timbuktu or anywhere around the globe does impinge on
the Vatican on a range of matters and especially financial.
CORNEL: Finally, I wonder Bosco if you rushed your response to me because very
very unusually, I could not agree with anything you said in your response post.
