Bhamonponn on the decline...

Thanks very much Cornel...really appreciated your mail.
I am glad you will go to my home town Margao very soon...well will give you an 
exact update...and you will be surprised there are some shuddh bamons that even 
write on this forum.

My dad was from margao and mum from curtorim...while growing up, we children 
used to spend a lot of our time in curtorim and school and college was in 
margao.

You will be shocked i had seen in those days how children of a better father 
were treated at my school at loyola...and to add insult to injury to the 
children of lesser fathers...some of the priests during our times did abet the 
favouritism that went on.

I know this mail will trigger a lot of interest from various sections...but i 
also pray those who felt the way i did n observed, although then many may not 
have got the whole big picture. But Margao was a perfect place for caste 
differentiation, both among the hindus and the catholics.

Will write to you soon on your email id. as i do not wish to say or disclose 
more here, but just as you inquired, you will get to know.

Yeah! finally and after all the bouts of ..............i had with the 
moderators and good old Bosco in Canada....im enjoying Goa net and some...not 
all the posts that relate in freeing Goa from the state of seige that it is 
under at the moment.

Goa and goans are meant for better things in life and the current state of Goa 
is not acceptable at all...so lets join hands on this forum to fight for our 
Goa...unitedly!

Enjoy your trip in Margao and also try to do a via in Dubai...rest assured will 
ensure you have a good time out here!

Regards
Cedric da Costa
Dubai


Hi Cedrico 
I was glad to hear from you that you believe that the caste system is in 
decline in Goa. Hopefully, it will become obsolete as soon as possible. I think 
I can accept Agnelo's view that there are more urgent priorities facing Goa 
right now with so much structural change taking place fairly rapidly. However, 
constantly pricking the caste balloon is also important not only to demolish 
those Margao Brahmins you referred to but also to empower the non Brahmins so 
as to to take on the Brahmins at every opportunity regarding their caste 
racism. 

I hope to visit Margao sometime reasonably soon and would appreciate a little 
info as to exactly where these Bamons are supposedly holed up and located 
geographically and how in your view, "Brahminism prevails". For me, just 
driving around to observe their increasingly decadent surroundings would be of 
considerable interest. 

I happen to be in London and I know you are in Dubai. I have enjoyed your 
material on football and other matters in the Gulf. 
Kind regards 
Cornel 

cedrico dacosta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Dear Agnelo, 

Much has been going on these days and long discussions about the church, caste 
system etc in Goa. 
Well initially we are given to understand the divide began at the church 
committees itself, mostly called the confrarias. 
many bramin priests, or some who thought they were bramins promoted this 
bramins first policy. 
Ask me, in Margao...till date such braminism prevails. 








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Message: 11 
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 13:42:37 -0400 
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Do you like classical music? 

This is the enquete of the site www.bene.pro.br. 

And the goans people? 

Goans like classical music or not? 

We want to know. 

Bene Rodrigues 
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Message: 12 
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 19:32:54 +0100 (BST) 
From: JOHN MONTEIRO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Priest are Perps, says Ana Maria 
Fernandes............... 
To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" 
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Ana, I am so surprised to read your post. Around which areas in Goa (or 
anywhere else in the whole wide world) are these churches you say are infested 
with maggots breeding and which (Catholic) Priests with fat bank accounts, and 
who is full of sex lust? 
A damning statement, but where is the proof? What you have said so far could 
easily be mistaken for one of the corrupt politicians house(s). Or worse 
someone you KNOW has made you blurt this out, because you KNOW something, but 
cannot tell it on this forum. If I am right, just email us individually and 
NAME the person you KNOW. 
That way, you have done a confession, been forgiven for attempting to accuse 
unjustly and been pardoned, all without having to resort to one of God's 
messengers whom you feel uncomfortable to be near anyway. 
I am assuming you are a Catholic and that you have an axe to grind (or plant) 
somewhere where it will do most good. I am afraid it has not done any good 
here, because you associated yourself with Albert who is well known for his 
rantings and accusations, false ones (never brought any proof to the table 
about anything he has posted here in all the (short) time I have been posting 
on this forum. 
Please Ana, you are made of better stuff than that. Let it go, but if you 
cannot, then bring something to the table that we can get our teeth into, not a 
reason for someone to knock them out! Write MORE not LESS, you are worth MORE 
than the people you accuse, just bring it to the table and show us the proof. 
We want to believe you and I am sure you want us to belive you? 
Kind regards 
John Monteiro 
27.10.07 19.32 hrs 
PS I hope everyone remembers (in the UK) to put your clocks BACK one hour, we 
are to gain an extra hour's sleep tonight. But as usual this post will appear 
several days from now I guess, so its academic really. 
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Agnelo Gomes is not any authority to condemn any one. He is presumed to be a 
lay person just like Albert and me........ the fact is the church is infected 
with maggots which breed on money greed and sex lust. There are priest who have 
big fat bank accounts........I being a girl know the talk and behavior of many 
priests and the less I write better it is. 
Ann Marie 
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Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 19:14:26 -0700 (PDT) 
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WEEK IN REVIEW | October 28, 2007 
The World: A Tale of Tragic Love Cracks Calcutta's Mirror 
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Message: 14 
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 20:28:19 -0700 (PDT) 
From: Cajetan Rego <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Manohar parrikar - right choice for CM 
To: goanet@lists.goanet.org 
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Please follow the link http://thegoan.blogspot.com. 
I feel Parrikar needs to be given a chance to form govt with full majority. 
I had a chat with Parrikar over the phone when he was trying to form the govt 
taking support from Babush. He said he was constrained by the current state of 
poiltics and had no choice but to form govt if Goa were to be saved from land 
sharks, corruption and bankrupcy. He said it would be ideal for Goa if every 
politician was non-corrupt and dedicated for Goan's well being, but the reality 
was far from this and hence he had to live with such constraints. He would 
himself follow his ethics even if he were to side with Babush. He explained 
this to me for about 20 min without having met/known me. 
After I had this talk, I fully understood his determination and the reason 
behind him making a U-turn. 
It is true that he had a centralized administrative style. But that is what is 
required while dealing with govt servant babus. A near impossible feat like 
IFFI 2004 could never have been achieved had he delegated work and expected it 
to get done somehow. 
IFFI is an investment. The cost that everyone complains about will be recovered 
in the years to come by way of tourism and fame. 

Cajetan Rego, 
Tivim Goa 

Bhandare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Dear Anamika: 

Your sentiments are riht on target.Parrikar is the 
most dynamic and honest politician we have right now 
Politics is neve as easy as choosing between good and 
bad, rather it is the tough choice between the lesser 
of two evils... 
Critics of parrikar will find 100 ways of pointing out 
his faults but what is the choice we have? 

maybe parrikar is not ideal but relative to the others 
that we have he is the best 


regards 
B 

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