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It looks like the fair point that Selma has tried to make, Admin Noronha has 
chosen to misunderstand. The point is not that Goans should not speak English 
in a Konknni accent or use transliterated Konknni expressions when they are 
speaking English as a second language. The point is two-fold:

1. When Goans learn English they ought to learn it properly in terms of its 
grammar and vocabulary. They ought to have teachers that teach it properly.

2. If they decide to use it as their primary language at home, in school and at 
work, and shun their native Konknni or Portuguese or whatever, then they ought 
to learn to speak it properly, or at the very least make certain that their 
kids do so.

It is absolutely true that if you do not know how to express yourself at a 
minimum level of proficiency in what you yourself regard as your primary 
language of expression, then you are unlikely to be able to think complex 
thoughts, and indeed, learn and discuss anything of substance.


Cheers,

Santosh



----- Original Message -----
From:  Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك 
نورونيا  <fredericknoro...@gmail.com>

Selma,

> American English is a language, Pidgin English on the other hand is not. 
> Please do not
> confuse the issue of a evolving language with that of a language spoken 
> badly. This is
> a spurious and misleading argument.

Not sure what you say above is right. Pidgin English -- and there are
many -- is not a form of English. It is one of many languages derived
from English[1]. My journalist friend Frank Senge, of Papua New
Guinea, spoke Tok Pisin [2], the official language of Papua New Guinea
and the most widely used language in that country.

> Those who speak English as a second language, which is what a vast majority 
> of Indians do, can
> speak it as proficiently or deficiently as they wish.

Even here, your figures and claims are incorrect. To quote a recent
(Mar 2010) report from the Times of India, "English was the primary
language for barely 2.3 lakh Indians at the time of the census, more
than 86 million listed it as their second language and another 39
million as their third language." [3]


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