With utmost respect I see it differently. Do we believe that all the Christian politicians were utterly cursed: that they did not have the good wishes, expectations, the minds an the eye of the Church, nuns an priests, and laity upon them.
Barad begins well below. although one should not go with the mango analogy is not on the ball. It could imply the community saying, and worse the Christians, see: the priest are the same. The result being that the experiment is abandoned. Maguir tavveo pettoilya! (Later clap hands) Read 40*** in the next paragraph. Barad says: The drive to help them should come from within and > not through the position one holds in government. On the contrary..one bad > mango in a basketful of good .spoils all the mangoes.this saying still holds > well. Fear is... one honest priest in a gang of dirty politicians might > also turn out to be like them! BUT, the fear of someone turning bad should not derail the possibility, NOR future possibilities if one or many priest are somewhat or equally corrupt. I mean shit sherlocks, what about all the 40*** or so minsters times cabinets that totally rubbed Goan noses and sensibilities in the kumao (toilet). Think of that. I mean COME ON and get your logic together! In fact, even Hindu priest of major temples should get into this. Now no point in pointing out to me (do it to your spouses or the family dog): But then how will they support themselves, who gives the temples the money. Most of them have enough to say the least. People hold to fancy notions of what their priests should be. Priests should not be considered as mere dinner companions for one. In my opinion priests should be spiritual assassins. Of course they too are human, and could have greed oozing out of every pore, but one must risk such a possibility, UNLESS ones knows for sure a paritcular person is leaning a bit more towards Mamon, than ................(fill blank). Attempt change by any means necessary. The shit has hit the fan, and most are presenting they have a large enough cheek. Btw, pointing this put is not being unchristian Time to get that into heads. On the other hand, villagers should be willing to get priests who are punks out of the way, even if it means cracking ribs. THAT does not mean instrumental violence. Cut the crap out dear middle class mavens/ uppers too. Lets not pretend to be something that only makes one feel elegant, but is thoroughly hollow within. We see enough of that in the petit bourgeoisie-ponn on Goanet. And then the angst ridden question flow. As, And Quiet Flows the Don, or Mandovi! In fact, priest-politicians must be supported in Goa as also in the whole freaking country; and encouraged. Nuns too. They are many who have beyond proven themselves. Journalists and writers should suck up, cultivate some theology/heuristics/ontology chops and write pieces, op-ed pieces on what a society is, on shifting roles and responsibilities -- and why things have reached this point. Hey write a novel for crying out loud. Has secularism failed is another good question to mull on, not to be confused with pathetic notions of things will be fine if there is no religion and what follows that the priest must only do this and not that. A bit of Henri du Lubac, Aquinas, Aristotle, and yes Raimundo Pannikar, Parsa Bhagwat, Gora Kumbhar Chokamela -- would not be such a bad idea. Christian journos could drink one less tea and educate yourselves as well as non-Christians journos on notions of caritas (not carrots!), etc., needs a strong segment of the laity as good advisers. I hope the big boys are tuned in certainly Pdr. Loyola. I truly hope so. ++++++++++++ venantius j pinto > Message: 8 > Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 07:47:14 +0530 > From: valley faleiro <valley_fale...@hotmail.com> > To: goa news <goanet@lists.goanet.org> > Subject: [Goanet] Priests in politics > > My own feeling is that there is no need for priests to stand or join > politics. They can help the people to come out and VOTE for the right > candidate. Better still if they could support a GOOD CANDIDATE to stand for > the election. Yes , with priests living their daily life with dirty mangoes > , will not make difference to our lives. > > COME OUT AND VOTE FOR THE RIGHT CANDIDATE !!!!!! > > Valley Faleiro > > > > > > From: dr.udayba...@gmail.com > > To: > > Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 07:36:53 +0530 > > Subject: [Goanet] Priests in politics > > > > Ann, there is nothing wrong in Priest of Christians, Imam / Mullah of > Muslim > > and Bhatji of Hindus joining politics! Let's motivate them to enter > politics > > so that we will get government ruled by religious philosophy rather than > > dirty politician's philosophy. Once we achieve this, and to accommodate > > politicians, let's make all these dirty politicians the preachers of > > respective religions, what say? > > I think, one need not become MLA or MP or head of any political body to > help > > poor and the depressed. The drive to help them should come from within > and > > not through the position one holds in government. On the contrary..one > bad > > mango in a basketful of good .spoils all the mangoes.this saying still > holds > > well. Fear is... one honest priest in a gang of dirty politicians might > > also turn out to be like them! > > > > Best regards, > > U. G. Barad > > > > I find there is nothing wrong if a priest joins politics and contest > > elections and even get elected. What is important is that he once when > he is > > elected live like a christian in all his ways. he works for the poor and > > downtrodden. He lives like Christ lived on earth. What is wrong in this > ? I > > fully support Fr.Bismark and request other priests instead of doing > nothing > > to help the poor and the depressed join the government become MLAS, > > minsiters. At least we will have honest ministers and there will be lot > of > > development in our villages and cities > > > > Ann Marie Fernandes --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---------------------------------------------------------------------------