btw: I was able to run latest Grails 2.0.M1 on GAE infrastructure. Request that cause a instance to be loaded take 29 - 31s and sometimes cause a HardDeadlineExceededError. After instance is loaded requests are very fast, until they are ceased down by GAE scheduler.
I have no concern with the long startup time, as with Always On it should not be a problem. But that brings me back to one of my original questions: 2) How smart will the scheduler be to startup new instances? Will it for example take into account the avg load time of previously started instances? Cheers, Marcel On Jul 22, 9:20 pm, "Ikai Lan (Google)" <ika...@google.com> wrote: > What's the startup time on Grails now? > > I can ask about the 30s startup time, but I'm sure there are some pretty > serious consequences to an app with a 40s-50s startup time. I'm a bit > surprised, honestly, because even a JRuby on Rails app shouldn't take more > than 30 seconds to startup. > > Ikai Lan > Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine > Blog:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com > Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine > Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine > > On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Marcel Overdijk > <marceloverd...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > > > > > > > Yes might be, but frameworks like Grails need a longer startup time. > > > It does not matter for any application server nor cloud provider > > except GAE. > > That's why I'm asking about future working of scheduler. > > > Further, if I keep up enough instances I would not bother the startup > > time at all... > > > I'm not saying 30s limit is bad or good, I'm just looking if using > > Grails on GAE will be feasible or not. > > > On Jul 22, 9:06 pm, "Ikai Lan (Google)" <ika...@google.com> wrote: > > > I haven't heard any plans to lift the 30s load time to start an > > application. > > > 30s+ loading time seems pretty bad to me ... > > > > Ikai Lan > > > Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine > > > Blog:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com > > > Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine > > > Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine > > > > On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Marcel Overdijk > > > <marceloverd...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > > > Hi Ikai, > > > > > I cannot find answer to: > > > > > 1) Will the limit of 30s to start an application be lifted? > > > > > The other question seems to be answered since the changes in 1.5.2 > > > > (http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/adminconsole/ > > > > performancesettings.html#Setting_the_Minimum_Pending_Latency) > > > > > On Jul 22, 4:24 pm, "Ikai Lan (Google)" <ika...@google.com> wrote: > > > > > Have you taken a look at the scheduler that has shipped? It should be > > > > under > > > > > "Application Settings". If there's anything there that you think > > might be > > > > > needed, please let us know. > > > > > > Ikai Lan > > > > > Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine > > > > > Blog:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com > > > > > Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine > > > > > Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Marcel Overdijk > > > > > <marceloverd...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > > > > > Everybody knows about load time issues when using frameworks that > > take > > > > > > a long time to startup. Take for example Grails. > > > > > > > I wonder if we will still encounter these issues after the pricing > > > > > > changes. > > > > > > > 1) Will the limit of 30s to start an application be lifted? > > > > > > > 2) How smart will the scheduler be to startup new instances? 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