Hi Álvaro Degives-Más I also use ZBblock and everything from the google app engine except pubsubhubbub and s~feedly-social.
I'd actually like to know whether there is some way to look up a description of an apps function so that I can review apps as they come a long and decide which to include in my list of permitted apps. Because if I wish to apply Nick's advise, it seems to me that absent information on specific apps, it's best to assume an unknown-to-me app represents undesirable-to-me traffic. I realize that Nick is explaining that Google's TOS is very strict. (I think I found them here: https://developers.google.com/appengine/terms and more relevantly here https://developers.google.com/cloud/terms/aup ) But the fact is an operation may not violate Google's TOS, but the behaviors by app writers or end users of that app often seem undesirable from *mine*. Moreover, reading googles TOS, I don't see anything that prohibits use of an app to set up a proxy to evade IP bans at a site. Nor do I see an prohibition against someone using the app to fingerprint a site or run a vulnerability scanner. It's true a user violates the Google TOS if they actually *upload* a trojan or worm. But unless scanning and scrapings fall under the adjective "invasive", both seem to be permitted by googles TOS. What's more: currently, as far as I can tell, many of the apps visits to my blogs are proxies trying to evade my IP blocks (e.g. s~youtubeunblock , drrkproxxxy )or leave comment spam (see http://www.projecthoneypot.org/ip_74.125.185.21 , http://www.projecthoneypot.org/ip_74.125.182.39 or http://www.projecthoneypot.org/ip_74.125.185.21 ). What precisely am I supposed to make of this app: appid: *cracksites? *( *cracksites* didn't hit me; I happened to find that on a server log here: http://ns1.nk.ca/usage/agent_201207.phtml ) I realize *cracksites* may no longer exist, or it might be a perfectly innocent app beneficial app that fully complies with your TOS and so you have no reason to ban it. But I've been wondering if there is someway people who run sites and who might want to permit the good apps to connect to quickly learn the purpose of an app so we can decide whether we approve of that purpose and permit that app to visit? If one exists, I'd love to know it so I can figure out whether I or my readers might benefit if I permit these sorts of things to load my pages: appid: s~app-cruxlight* * , appid: s~xingqiji008, appid: website20vn or appid: proxyfile2. (I'm already pretty sure I don't need this to load appid: s~full-service-pm ). On Thursday, March 31, 2011 7:48:35 PM UTC-5, Álvaro Degives-Más wrote: > > Hi Nick - and by extension, Barry as well > > Indeed, with heavy heart. But I don't have the resources to keep my > web-based property open to "play nice" with worthwhile endeavors such as > Google App Engine, while a notorious minority of criminals (I openly prefer > the "terrorist" moniker) runs amok with virtual impunity. And so, I set a > tight regime for wrapper security scripts (e.g. ZB Block, which I find > quite effective and flexible). > > Hopefully you now understand better; it's not that I mistrust Google, or > Google App Engine in particular. I just can't afford to be available for > well-intended fun and games while carrying the weight of incidental abuse > at my own expense. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
