I have made several ruffs using both before and after starching methods.  I
find if I prep the fabric by starching it and ironing it first, I get a
much better result when I start the pleating.  Its a method I read about in
Jean Hunniset's Stage to screen.
While I am not a scholar on the subject, I have done some prelim research
on it. 
http://thevilla.sccspirit.com/sisters/gwen_projects.htm

Gwenhwyfar 


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Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 11:30:41 -0500
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It's Sunday morning, and the caffeine has not yet percolated its way into my
brain, so here's a possibly silly question:

is it a good idea to starch the fabric of a ruff *before* or *after* you sew
it together?

Sheridan P.




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IMNTBHO, before
Sarah P.
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> It's Sunday morning, and the caffeine has not yet percolated its way into 
> my
> brain, so here's a possibly silly question:
>
> is it a good idea to starch the fabric of a ruff *before* or *after* you 
> sew
> it together?
>
> Sheridan P.
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Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 12:22:38 -0600
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Shane & Sheridan wrote:
> It's Sunday morning, and the caffeine has not yet percolated its way into
my
> brain, so here's a possibly silly question:
> 
> is it a good idea to starch the fabric of a ruff *before* or *after* you
sew
> it together?

After.  If you want the lovely figure-eights to work out right, just sew 
a very tightly gathered band of fabric to the top of your neckband. 
Then soak it in liquid starch and proceed from there.  Full instructions 
of how I do mine are on my website at

http://www.faucet.net/costume/period/ruff.html

The thing is, every time you wash it, the starch all comes out.  So you 
don't want to have to take it all apart every time you have to wash and 
re-starch.  And you will want to wash it--they sit right next to the 
neck and are prey to "ring around the ruff."

Happy starching,
Melanie Schuessler


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Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 10:47:45 -0700
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One of my ruffs is made from silk organza, and lace, it was pretty stiff 
before I starched it.  It is actually easier to work with IMHO than 
something soft and flimsy....
Having done it both ways I prefer something with substance.

Sg


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Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 17:59:18 +0000
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If you use straw stiffener (millinery supplies) you stiffen it first, 
then form the eights and glue or sew them (glueing "is" authentic, or 
rather sticking with gum arabic IIRC). You don't wash, but clean with 
water, and re-stiffen with steam every time it goes limp. Useful for 
theatre, where you haven't time to do every ruff every time.

Suzi



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