I have made several ruffs using both before and after starching methods. I find if I prep the fabric by starching it and ironing it first, I get a much better result when I start the pleating. Its a method I read about in Jean Hunniset's Stage to screen. While I am not a scholar on the subject, I have done some prelim research on it. http://thevilla.sccspirit.com/sisters/gwen_projects.htm
Gwenhwyfar Message: 4 Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 11:30:41 -0500 From: "Shane & Sheridan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [h-cost] Ruff To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" It's Sunday morning, and the caffeine has not yet percolated its way into my brain, so here's a possibly silly question: is it a good idea to starch the fabric of a ruff *before* or *after* you sew it together? Sheridan P. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 12:47:25 -0400 From: SPaterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [h-cost] Ruff To: Historical Costume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original IMNTBHO, before Sarah P. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane & Sheridan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 12:30 PM Subject: [h-cost] Ruff > It's Sunday morning, and the caffeine has not yet percolated its way into > my > brain, so here's a possibly silly question: > > is it a good idea to starch the fabric of a ruff *before* or *after* you > sew > it together? > > Sheridan P. > > > _______________________________________________ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 12:22:38 -0600 From: Melanie Schuessler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [h-cost] Ruff To: Historical Costume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Shane & Sheridan wrote: > It's Sunday morning, and the caffeine has not yet percolated its way into my > brain, so here's a possibly silly question: > > is it a good idea to starch the fabric of a ruff *before* or *after* you sew > it together? After. If you want the lovely figure-eights to work out right, just sew a very tightly gathered band of fabric to the top of your neckband. Then soak it in liquid starch and proceed from there. Full instructions of how I do mine are on my website at http://www.faucet.net/costume/period/ruff.html The thing is, every time you wash it, the starch all comes out. So you don't want to have to take it all apart every time you have to wash and re-starch. And you will want to wash it--they sit right next to the neck and are prey to "ring around the ruff." Happy starching, Melanie Schuessler Message: 9 Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 10:47:45 -0700 From: WickedFrau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [h-cost] Ruff To: Historical Costume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed One of my ruffs is made from silk organza, and lace, it was pretty stiff before I starched it. It is actually easier to work with IMHO than something soft and flimsy.... Having done it both ways I prefer something with substance. Sg Message: 11 Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 17:59:18 +0000 From: Suzi Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [h-cost] Ruff To: Historical Costume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed If you use straw stiffener (millinery supplies) you stiffen it first, then form the eights and glue or sew them (glueing "is" authentic, or rather sticking with gum arabic IIRC). You don't wash, but clean with water, and re-stiffen with steam every time it goes limp. Useful for theatre, where you haven't time to do every ruff every time. Suzi -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume