First, I think you should not have been so shy about asking questions. This system is difficult and the documentation for use between the new user and the experienced user is almost nonexistent. We would have warned you that what you were undertaking was not likely to succeed without more help. I am very sorry that you have ended up as discouraged as you seem to be.
With VistA, you can buy expert support and training as you can a proprietary system, but unlike with the proprietary system, the software will be yours to upgrade, etc., as you please. You have the advantage of being able to dump one vendor in exchange for another if you are unhappy with VistA, and decrease your level of support as your group gets trained. You will be stuck with the luck of the draw with a commercial system, and if the company fails, you are out of luck. Perhaps you need to talk with some hospital workers that have had proprietary systems installed lest you think that installing one of them is a piece of cake that you can do on your own, if you can get someone to sell it to you without support. Frankly, it was unrealistic to think you could learn to do this by yourself in a year. It may not be too late for you to be able to demo the system if you can bring in some expert help immediately, but I understand it is not within your budget. Perhaps someone will step up to the plate if there is an option to work jointly with you on the contract. I am very sorry this is probably not going to work out, because it sounds like VistA would be the prefect lower cost solution for the rural hospitals. I believe the BDK will likely be in XWB1_1P26PG.exe judging from the Appendix of the Broker Development Kit documentation. You can find which namespace the patches are in by looking at the namespace text document at ftp.va.gov/vista/software and then track down the program in the Packages, RPC Broker, which is the XWB namespace. You will need to install it in Delphi Professional version or above. This one is probably for Delphi 6, which is hard to get unless you know someone who has it. It is possible to work with Delphi 7, but it takes help to get it going. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of CS Wagner Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 1:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Vista without CPRS I've been searching and I cannot find the Broker Development Kit. I have a strong feeling it will become a non-issue as I have to demo this on Monday. I will have to do it without CPRS, using only text-based menus. I want to state that I put 'free' in quotes because it isn't really free. I started working on this in November of last year. At the rate I'm going (about 2-3 months per problem I've run into), it is going to take 4-5 years to get the demo functioning properly. Factoring cost of time and labor, it will be much cheaper to buy a commercial EMR system. -Shaun Nancy Anthracite wrote: >wsockc.pas appears to be in the Broker Development Kit. Exactly what that >means for editing it, etc., I am not sure. > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of CS >Wagner >Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 12:39 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Vista without CPRS > > >Which version of CPRS are you using? I got OR_30_187_SRC.ZIP and it has >no reference to LocalPort (and does not have wsockc.pas). Is CPRS >incremental, so I have to download the first version and overwrite files >with each version after that to ensure I have it all? > -Shaun > >Roy wrote: > > > >>The code is acutally in the RPB Broker so you would have to modify it to >> >> >use > > >>a specific port rather than a "random" port. >> >>The code is in wsockc.pas, the port for the callback is actually set by the >>client. Look for LocalPort in the code and you will see how the RPC Client >>gets this port, it sends the port to the host (VistA) along with the ip >>address so the host (VistA) knows where to do the call back. >> >>The process is rather simple, an initial connection is made and the client >>sends the necessary info to the host, the host forks off a process to >>perform the callback to the client, this forked process is the one used for >>all subsequent IP communiation to the client. I hope this helps. >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Nancy Anthracite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 6:59 AM >>Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Vista without CPRS >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Is that with the RPC broker components in the Delphi code, or, as I would >>>guess, in the M code? How would I find it? >>>Can you think of a string I could search M code for to hone in on it? -- >>>i.e., you got to do better than that, Roy, for us newbies!!! ;-) >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roy >>>Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 12:34 AM >>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Vista without CPRS >>> >>> >>>It is in the winsock code. >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Kevin Toppenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 6:32 PM >>>Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Vista without CPRS >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Shaun, >>>> >>>>The server side is written in M, and the windows >>>>client is written in Delphi pascal. >>>> >>>>I wouldn't advise you to try to pick through all that >>>>M code--it's pretty ugly if you ask me. I was >>>>thinking that someone else on the list might know >>>>right how to do it. >>>> >>>>Kevin >>>> >>>>--- CS Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>I worked on that for the past couple weeks and I >>>>>haven't even found a >>>>>starting point. I wrongly assumed that CPRS was >>>>>written in C or C++. >>>>>It appears to be in M. Since I can barely recognize >>>>>M at this point, I >>>>>can't work on the code. >>>>>-Shaun >>>>> >>>>>Kevin Toppenberg wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>How difficult would it be to modify the source code >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>so >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>that a specific port is used for the call back, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>rather >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>than a random port. I would think that finding the >>>>>>code would the difficult part. 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