NDF files should definitely be there.  NDF used to be one big, very deeply
nested set of tables (people mistake "hierarchical" for "nested tables"
which aren't the same thing, BTW).  NDF is now several tables with a few
nested tables each.  What other "goodies" were you looking for that aren't
there now?

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thurman
Pedigo
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 5:13 PM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Install process (was: CPRS Connection
Problem)

> What was the source of the "release" you're using?

That release with goodies would have been Hardhats. The last two versions
came from:
ftp://ftp.va.gov/vista/Software/

Where should we be looking? ....thx/t 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cameron Schlehuber
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 6:02 PM
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Install process (was: CPRS Connection
> Problem)
> 
> What was the source of the "release" you're using?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thurman
> Pedigo
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 2:22 PM
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Install process (was: CPRS Connection
> Problem)
> 
> This raises a point I think I have observed. I did several installs of
> VistA. One installation, I think May 2003, had lexicon that would search
> and
> find ICD9, NDF, and a few more goodies. The VistA I have now doesn't have
> the NDF, and some other goodies I though present in the 2003 version.
> 
> Are we getting a different bundle with each release?
> 
> NDF is downloadable quarterly, is there a pain-free trick to keeping it
> current?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> thurman
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Woodhouse
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 2:24 PM
> > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Install process (was: CPRS Connection
> > Problem)
> >
> > I would think that you'd want indepently installable (and configurable)
> > modules. Trying to create a "one size fits all" system does strike me
> > as a bit of an exercise in futility.
> >
> > --- Thurman Pedigo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Good question! I guess the real issue here is this IS a LOTTA
> > > PROGRAM. If we
> > > had to build an entire (HOSPITAL+AMBULATORY) practice system it would
> > > be a
> > > chalange for install shield. One interresting thing my wife found on
> > > the G5
> > > MAC she just bought is "automate."  I'm not sure what it does - if it
> > > lets
> > > one create a scipt for installations such as VistA, it could be a
> > > real
> > > lifesaver to share. Too bad Cache doesn't include MAC (or free BSD)
> > > as a
> > > platform.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > thurman
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:hardhats-
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Woodhouse
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 10:49 AM
> > > > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > > Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Install process (was: CPRS
> > > Connection
> > > > Problem)
> > > >
> > > > What does InstallShield do for you that KIDS does not?
> > > >
> > > > --- Thurman Pedigo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I WISH!
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > [mailto:hardhats-
> > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg
> > > Woodhouse
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 8:51 AM
> > > > > > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Install process (was: CPRS
> > > > > Connection
> > > > > > Problem)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Isn't that KIDS?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- Thurman Pedigo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > VISTA INSTALL SHIELD....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > [mailto:hardhats-
> > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gregory
> > > > > Woodhouse
> > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 6:44 AM
> > > > > > > > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > > > > > > Subject: [Hardhats-members] Install process (was: CPRS
> > > > > Connection
> > > > > > > Problem)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I think that misconstrues the intent of my post a bit.
> > > Nancy is
> > > > > > > > hardly responsible for the complexity of the process of
> > > > > creating a
> > > > > > > > usable VistA configuration from scratch. But that does not
> > > mean
> > > > > > > > things should be so! There is clearly a problem here that
> > > needs
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > addressed.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ===
> > > > > > > > Gregory Woodhouse
> > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Before one gets the right answer, one must ask the right
> > > > > > > question."
> > > > > > > > -- S. Barry Cooper
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On May 31, 2005, at 4:34 AM, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Yeah, I agree.  Back off from giving Nancy grief about
> > > > > > > > > her install instructions.  We all know that VistA is
> > > > > > > > > not a plug-n-play program.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I, for one, am glad she has figured out all 100+ steps
> > > > > > > > > needed.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I created a one-step scripting system for
> > > > > > > > > configuration.  But then I got my system configured so
> > > > > > > > > I didn't acutely need it.  And no one seemed
> > > > > > > > > interested in working out the kinks.  So it sits on my
> > > > > > > > > computer.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Kevin
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