10 is Line Feed,
12 is Form Feed
13 is Carriage Return

In  the teletype exchange with the teletype, the process would send the line
feed and the teletype would respond with the carriage return as an
acknowledgement of the line-feed (a shorthand for an x-on/x-off protocol).
It took a long time for the print head of the tty to get back to the left
margin (even at 120 to 300 baud (12 to 30 characters per second).  Would not
like to loose a character because the head is in motion.

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Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Does W ! flush an output buffer?


> Isn't the ascii code for line feed 10
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
> Toppenberg
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 2:09 PM
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Does W ! flush an output buffer?
>
> Maury,
>
> This was the problem.  Apparently with M sees a !, it
> automatically resets $X, but writing a $char(13)
> doesn't.  This seems kind of an odd mechanism.
>
> I was switching back and forth between writing files
> out to a file and writing the progress on the screen.
> It seems that there is only ONE $X, not one each for
> the file and another for the screen.  So I had to make
> the switch between states just after a ! had been
> written to the file.
>
> Thanks for the help.  Also, I hadn't known that write
> *x is the same as write $char(x).  So I learn
> something every day...  :-)
>
> Thanks
> Kevin
>
>
> --- Maury Pepper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > It would help to to know what your code looks like
> > and exactly what you want the output to look like,
> > but let me offer a couple of thoughts:
> >
> > 1.  If you are using the ? tab format character, you
> > need to let GTM know the position of the cursor.
> > Using ! sets $X to 0.  An escape sequence might set
> > $X depending on how it is issued.  I don't know
> > about GTM, but other M's let you set $X directly.
> > So just insert:
> > S $X=0 following the W *13  or $C(13).
> >
> > 2.  Most systems provide a way to define line
> > length.  This can be used to automatically wrap long
> > lines.  Common values are 80 and 132.  Generally,
> > there's a way to turn this off or disable it by
> > setting the line length to 0.  It looks like some of
> > your lines are wrapping so you are probably having
> > this problem.  Again, the solution is to S $X=0 if
> > GTM allows that and/or disable line wrapping.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kevin Toppenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Hardhats Sourceforge"
> > <hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 11:47 PM
> > Subject: [Hardhats-members] Does W ! flush an output
> > buffer?
> >
> >
> > >I am in the middle of writing a function to display
> > a
> > > progress bar.
> > >
> > > I want the bar to stay on one line, so at the end
> > of
> > > each line, I need to do something to get back to
> > the
> > > beginning of line.
> > >
> > > My first approach was to write the line, then
> > write a
> > > $char(13) to go back to the beginning of the line,
> > > ready for the next refresh.
> > >
> > > But this gave very odd output, like this:
> > >
> > > Lets begin...
> > > Progress:
> > >
> > 94%--------------------------------------------->||
> > > Progress: 89%------------------------>|--|
> > > Progress:
> > > 84%-------------------------------------->|---
> > > Progress:
> > > 74%----------------------------------->|---------|
> > > Progress: 69%--------------------|-----------|
> > > Progress:
> > 64%----------------------------->|--------
> > > Progress:
> > > 59%-------------------------->|------------------|
> > > Progress: 49%------------------------------------|
> > > Progress: 44%------------------->|--------------
> > > Progress:
> > > 39%----------------->|---------------------------|
> > > Progress:
> > 29%----------------------------------------|
> > > Progress: 24%---------->|-------------------
> > > Progress:
> > > 19%-------->|------------------------------------|
> > > Progress:
> > > 9%---->|--------------------------------------|
> > > Progress:  4%->|------------------------
> > > -------------------|
> > > All done!...
> > >
> > >
> > > But if, instead, I write a !, and then issue an
> > escape
> > > sequence to move the cursor up one line, it works
> > > perfectly.
> > >
> > > It acts like it drops characters unless I write a
> > !
> > >
> > > Does anyone know what is going on?
> > > thanks
> > > Kevn
> > >
> > >
> > > GTM>
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