On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Jason Dagit<da...@codersbase.com> wrote: > > > On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Derek Elkins <derek.a.elk...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Jason Dagit<da...@codersbase.com> wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Thomas ten Cate <ttenc...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> By the way, the most valuable pixels, right at the top of the page, >> >> are wasted on wiki stuff. Compare >> >> http://www.haskell.org/ >> >> with, for example, >> >> http://www.ruby-lang.org/ >> >> http://python.org/ >> > >> > The thing I like the most from the ruby page is the top box of content >> > where >> > it starts describing ruby with a "Read more..." link adjacent to a code >> > snippet. Because I doubt anyone will agree on *the one* best code >> > snippet >> > to show people, I think there should/could be a pool of fun snippets and >> > loading the page picks one at random. I have no idea if the wiki engine >> > supports this. I also like the strip of links at the top with things >> > like, >> > "Download", "Community", and so on. Something I think the Haskell page >> > does >> > much better than the other two, is the listing of events and hackage >> > updates. Both of those sections feel "inviting" to me. It makes me >> > curious >> > and I want to explore. >> > >> > The python page looks at least as cluttered as the haskell page. >> > Neither >> > the haskell page or the python page have the same look and feel of the >> > ruby >> > page. I think the shaded/gradient backgrounds actually add a lot to the >> > visual experience. I also like that the boxes have a different bg color >> > for >> > the box title and the box contents. I also like the use of icons on the >> > ruby page. The "Download Ruby" link/box with the download icon is very >> > inviting. I just want to download it, even if I'm not going to use >> > ruby! >> > >> > Perhaps we could have a contest similar to the logo contest but for >> > homepage >> > asthetics redesign. I think the content on the haskell page is great, >> > but >> > the visual style of the presentation could be improved considerably. >> > >> >> >> >> If, like the consensus seems to be, the page should be made more >> >> friendly to beginners (who are unlikely to want to contribute to the >> >> wiki right away), then this should be moved elsewhere, or at the very >> >> least made smaller and less obtrusive. >> > >> > Optimizing for newcomers seems wise. >> > Jason >> >> This is what I see when visiting the Ruby page: >> "DoS vulnerability in BigDecimal" > > That's true. And I never said we want to copy the ruby community :) In > fact, I'd prefer to not be associated with them given the community's > blatant unprofessionalism and sexism (cf. CouchDB presentation at a > semi-recent ruby conference). I do think their page has more visual appeal > though. So other than pointing out the DoS, did you have feedback?
I admit it; you caught me. I'm not a newbie and I don't use the front page terribly often, but I do like most of the links that are on it. The Ruby page is certainly prettier, but the layout of the Haskell page is fine in my opinion; the difference is mainly eye-candy. On another topic, I know people have expressed that they have liked the fact that the entire Haskell site is a wiki; this expressing openness and community involvement. I personally don't find the Haskell front page too cluttered and I think most of issue in that vein could be resolved by simply making sure the most important/newbie-oriented links are "above the fold" and appropriately emphasized/categorized as is partially done already. _______________________________________________ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe