If there is demand for shops to work on smaller jobs in haskell then I think a having a more specific marketplace/communication platform for haskell work would be very helpful. If there is a perceived demand, supply will soon follow.
- Job On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 5:48 AM, Jörg Roman Rudnick < joerg.rudn...@t-online.de> wrote: > These problems are critical -- but not hopeless, I think: > > (1) A simple technical matter, any average Haskell programmer (including > myself...) can build a platform, e.g. in Happstack or the like, to clear > this up (given you want to do this in Haskell ;-). > > (4) This is a special one, which I have pondered on some time ago. The > customers' main concern seems to be "will this company still support me in n > years??" > o if the project is interesting enough, I see hope there might be some > academic unit willing to partake in this, as I have heard enough complaint > of not having enough examples to demonstrate business relevance to students. > Normally, the customer should have no problem in believing an academic unit > and its interests to last some time. > o I would propose to pick up the insourcing concept -- as, what I can > confirm by my own teaching experiences, it sometimes is easier to introduce > Haskell to beginners (once the do have sufficient OS experience) then to > people who already are adherents of some other language. Ok, we might need > some more introductory literature etc. > > (3) Yes, there seem to be lots of people organized at a smaller level than > what I described -- groups of one or very few members, working on a limited > time range. > > Yesterday, I would have written there should be remarkable interest in > greater projects, but, due to the poor resonance to my mail, I feel wary to > do so now. > > (3)&(2) Such a reserved reaction might indicate many Haskellers are not > motivated by the money but by the fame, and -- as the lively succJava thread > shows -- what could be greater fame (besides the evaluation of 42) than > stealing the Java etc. community just another attractive project? ;-)) > > Do I go wrong in saying there's a good deal of competitive spirit in the > Haskell community interesting in taking claims away of other programming > cultures which have grown saturated over the years? And, isn't the this > *Haskeller bonus* indicating that doing the step to larger project should > not be as hard as for others? > > A remaining issue might be a need for some facility to find cooperations > and realize synergies -- see (1). > > Enough blah-blah. I got one email response (not posted to here) of a highly > qualified Haskeller whom I could name two projects which might have > interested him in his proximity, 80 miles and 75 miles away (and I do not > have so many...). My learning is that a communication platform in this > concern might be interesting to at least some of us. There are larger > projects possible -- if we pick them up. > > > All the best, > > Nick > > > > John A. De Goes wrote: > > > It's very difficult to find information on: > > 1. How many Haskell developers are out there; > 2. What a typical salary is for a Haskell developer; > 3. Whether or not the skills of a typical Haskell developer scale to large > applications (most Haskell developers are "hobby" Haskellers and have only > written tiny to small Haskell apps); > 4. How many shops are capable of handling Haskell development & > maintenance. > > > These are the kinds of information one needs to make an informed decision > about whether to introduce Haskell into the workplace. > > Regards, > > John A. De Goes > N-Brain, Inc. > The Evolution of Collaboration > > http://www.n-brain.net | 877-376-2724 x 101 > > On Sep 28, 2009, at 7:01 AM, Jörg Roman Rudnick wrote: > > In the last months, I made the experience it seems difficult to find > commercial Haskell developer teams to take responsibility for projects in > the range of $ 10.000 - 100.000. The Industrial Haskell Group does not seem > to be the appropriate place for this, while harvesting Haskell team at > general market places appears to be tedious. > > I would be very interested in others' experiences, and inhowfar my opinion > is shared that there should be a demand for such a market place, for > developer teams as well as those sympathizing with introducing Haskell > somewhere. > > Nick > _______________________________________________ > Haskell-Cafe mailing list > Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org > http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Haskell-Cafe mailing > listhaskell-c...@haskell.orghttp://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe > > > > _______________________________________________ > Haskell-Cafe mailing list > Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org > http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe > >
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