G'day all.

Quoting wren ng thornton <w...@freegeek.org>:

Sometimes in Haskell I've thought about how uniqueness typing would
make something faster, but in general all the plumbing associated with
it in Clean makes me feel like I'm writing systems-level code (i.e. C,
asm) instead of using a high-level language. The extra plumbing really
makes it feel dirtier to work with. That doesn't mean Clean is bad, but
I think it does contribute to the "cluttered" feeling Haskellers get.

I think you're right here.

Haskell has developed something of an aversion to naming things that
aren't important enough to have a name, such as variables whose only
reason to exist is "plumbing".  We'd far rather spend effort on more
higher-order functions, monads, combinators and points-freeness than
name something that's unimportant.  And the funny thing about this is
that it usually works, because in Haskell, abstraction is cheap.

I believe that this is the main reason why Haskell programmers haven't
embraced arrows, despite their theoretical advantages: Every notation
that has been implemented so far requires names for things that shouldn't
need names.

But as I said, it's a silly argument and folks should use whichever
gives them warm fuzzies.

I'd like to think that professional developers are a bit more scientific
than this.

Cheers,
Andrew Bromage
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