A big thank you, by the way, to you, Simon Marlow, Malcom Wallace and everyone who helped getting the videos online and those that gave talks at the Haskell Implementors' Workshop 2010. It was exciting to watch all the videos! There was a lot of interesting and fertile discussion.
On 6 October 2010 21:10, Don Stewart <d...@galois.com> wrote: > * Library fragmentation occuring due to type duplication (String, Text, ...) This one is a big issue for me personally. On hpaste[1] I spent some time converting between String/Text/ByteString/Lazy-ByteString and did not have fun. > * Belgium Hackathon coming up. See you there! > * A new ghci. > + hpaste/ghci. What were the ideas regarding hpaste? Creating a REPL for pastes? > * IDE > + scion. contributions. market places. > + documentation. > + EclipseFP, scion? > + NetBeans. I am personally interested in scion. I have the Emacs chops to hack on that. So far I've been making one-off scripts but it seems like ultimately the best approach is to focus on using scion to make Emacs a real quality Haskell environment -- and resulting contributions to Scion can only benefit other IDEs. Phyx- from the IRC has been working on some fairly advanced features for Haskell Visual Studio, for those interested. > * haskell.org > + polishing the wiki. > + wikibooks. > + call for sig. I am looking forward to having the new Haskell.org wiki[1] rolled out. I and Michael Snoyman have been working on cleaning up the web development area of the wiki[2]. We really want to make it a central and useful place for current information on web. dev in Haskell. [1]: http://new-www.haskell.org/haskellwiki [2]: http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Web > * haskell visual design group? > + consistent color themes across haskell.org sites. > + consistent haskell branding. Can we get real web designers on this? Has a colour theme / logo incarnation been decided yet? Should we make a poll with proposals? I might whip up a simple web app for posting proposal text + image attachments and allowing people to vote, if I can't find an existing one. At least if the choices are static Google Docs suffices for this and makes it easy to ask the community something. At the moment I'm still clinging to the old colour theme of purple and green[3][4], I like this theme but I'm open to switching both of these web sites to a new theme if we have a consistent, re-usable stylesheet, palette and SVG logo. I think a consistent theme is very important. Domains are also possibly important, too... Haskell.org, hackage, haddock, Planet Haskell, hpaste, tryhaskell, Hoogle, Hayoo, the soon-to-be Haskellers.com, etc. I think all these sites that are really part of the Haskell web network and should have a consistent theme and quick way to get "home" to Haskell.org. Imho I suppose it might be great to also have domain consistency, e.g. haskell.org, hackage.haskell.org, paste.haskell.org, try.haskell.org, hoogle/hayoo.haskell.org, planet.haskell.org, etc. We already have a few of these in use. Digressing a little, can anyone interested in doing so merge hoogle and Hayoo and make them part of Hackage? I plan on making a complete interface to the #haskell IRC channel with browsing, full text search, stats, common links, "marking" of interesting conversations, top posted links, active hours, etc. basically what pisg provides but... utilizing IRC as a real source of community knowledge and activity and not just a statistical curiousity. What I think would be neat but probably won't happen is irc.haskell.org, but I can always put it on hsirc.org or something. hpaste.org will interface with this site to provide context for pastes, e.g. when I'm viewing a paste, I should see maybe ten lines of conversation and a link to view more, so that I can see what the paste was about. I think both hpaste and the IRC channel are untapped sources of information and I intend on making these two sites utilise that information. I recently imported the last ten years' worth of IRC into a postgresql database[5]. I used the clogparse library[6]. For a bit of fun here's the top-ten Haskell chatters ever: amelie=> select count(*),nick from ircevent where type = 'talk' group by nick order by 1 desc limit 10; count | nick --------+------------- 643917 | lambdabot 265466 | Cale 248069 | dons 224690 | shapr 139449 | quicksilver 88745 | SamB 81229 | ski 75148 | Pseudonym 73043 | dcoutts 72337 | ivanm (10 rows) [3]: http://tryhaskell.org/ [4]: http://hpaste.org/ [5]: If anyone's interested in the dump, I have uploaded it and can email you the link. It's 174MB lzma-compressed and 900MB uncompressed. [6]: http://mainisusuallyafunction.blogspot.com/2010/09/clogparse-parsing-haskell-irc-logs.html > + stackoverflow for new questions? > + keep refering to SO. Does this suggest that I should first direct my Haskell technical questions to SO rather than Haskell-Cafe? > + Simon Marlow "contributions are going up, and process is working > well" Great to hear! I have a small GHC issue I'd like to fix one weekend. I want to get the t-shirt! "I contributed to GHC and all I got was this lazy... " > * Cabal and integration with other languages. > + Higher barrier to entry on the Mac. Is this the general experience? I installed the Haskell Platform on OS X and compiled all my projects without problem. It was quite surreal, I expected there to be loads of issues but everything just worked. I used mac ports for the C dependencies (e.g. libcurl or fastcgi). I don't think Gtk would work if I tried, but that's an issue on Windows too. What problems are there specific to OS X? Admittedly I do 99% of my Haskell hacking on Linux because I prefer Linux in general with XMonad and GNOME. _______________________________________________ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe