Yes, even if you did that and got it into the 2mm space correctly in FSL
conventions (this is not easy), the absolute warp file will have near-zero
values in one of the corners, even though the voxel that should have values
close to 0 should generally be towards the center of the volume.

Tim


On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 6:32 PM Glasser, Matthew <glass...@wustl.edu> wrote:

> I believe that FSL convertwarp converts between relative and absolute
> conventions, though the FSL coordinates issue might prevent that from being
> helpful.
>
> Matt.
>
> From: Timothy Coalson <tsc...@mst.edu>
> Date: Thursday, January 3, 2019 at 2:30 PM
> To: Matt Glasser <glass...@wustl.edu>
> Cc: Georgios Michalareas <g...@ae.mpg.de>, "hcp-users@humanconnectome.org"
> <hcp-users@humanconnectome.org>
> Subject: Re: [HCP-Users] Warping volume atlas and X, Y, Z of single point
> with standard2acpc_dc.nii.gz
>
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 10:47 AM Glasser, Matthew <glass...@wustl.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> 1) FSL does not respect Workbench’s header info, so the labels get
>> removed.  You might need to use wb_command -volume-resample or copy over
>> the header info.
>>
>
> Yes, use wb_command -volume-warpfield-resample and the enclosing voxel
> method.
>
>
>> 2) FSL has a utility to do this I believe (std2imgcoord), but it will be
>> slow (we used to use this for warping surfaces before we had the
>> wb_command. Not sure about the error message.
>>
>
> The wb_command error message means what it says - the warpfield is a
> volume file, and any coordinates that are outside of its bounding box have
> a completely unknown warp, because there is no voxel in that location to
> tell it what the displacement vector is.
>
> There isn't a direct way to put a coordinate through a warpfield in
> workbench, but since you specifically want to transform a voxel grid
> through it, you can get there with a few tricks.  First, convert the
> "native to standard" warpfield to "world" convention with wb_command
> -convert-warpfield - this convention gives at each voxel, the displacement
> that should be added to the coordinate (in proper nifti mm coordinates,
> rather than FSL's difficult conventions).  You can then resample this to
> the 2mm space with wb_command -volume-affine-resample (use an identity
> affine, and probably trilinear resampling) to get the 2mm voxel grid you
> want.  This is close, but the last step will need to be done manually,
> because the warpfield gives the relative displacement, but you want the
> absolute coordinate.  So, in each voxel, you need to add the coordinates of
> the center of the voxel - there is no command to do this, so do it in
> matlab, or python, or...
>
>
>> Matt.
>>
>> On 1/3/19, 10:31 AM, "hcp-users-boun...@humanconnectome.org on behalf of
>> Georgios Michalareas" <hcp-users-boun...@humanconnectome.org on behalf of
>> g...@ae.mpg.de> wrote:
>>
>> >Hi and Happy Hew Year,
>> >
>> >
>> >I have 2 questions regarding warping a volume atlas  and X,Y,Z
>> >coordinates of single points with the  standard2acpc_dc.nii.gz warp.
>> >
>> >Excuse me If my questions are too naive. Here they are:
>> >
>> >
>> >Question 1:
>> >
>> >======================================================================
>> >
>> >I would like to transform the volume atlas file
>> >
>> >MNINonLinear/ROIs/Atlas_ROIs.2.nii.gz
>> >
>> >from standard space to native space using the warp
>> >
>> >MNINonLinear/xfms/standard2acpc_dc.nii.gz
>> >
>> >I tried using "applywarp"
>> >
>> >'applywarp  --in=Atlas_ROIs.2.nii.gz  --ref=T1_native.nii.gz
>> >--out=WARPED_Atlas_Native.nii.gz
>>
>> >--warp=/mnt/beegfs/home/georgios.michalareas/workspace/projects/matthprob_
>> >MEG/data/smri/raw_nifti/BRS27/MNINonLinear/xfms/standard2acpc_dc.nii.gz
>> >--interp=spline'
>> >
>> >but in the resulting nifti there is no atlas label information .
>> >
>> >
>> >Question 2:
>> >
>> >======================================================================
>> >
>> >I would like to take the X,Y,Z coordinates of any voxel J in the 2mm
>> >template volume
>> >
>> >HCPpipelines-3.27.0/global/templates/MNI152_T1_2mm.nii.gz
>> >
>> >apply the standard2acpc_dc.nii.gz  warping to them and get the new X,Y,Z
>> >coordinates of J in the native space.
>> >
>> >The reason I want to do this is to make a regular reference 2 mm grid
>> >from the corrdinates of the voxels of the 2mm template volume and warp
>> >each of the grid vertices to native space.
>> >
>> >I made a surf.gii file containing a pseudo-surface which had as vertices
>> >the coordinates of all voxels of the 2mm template MNI152_T1_2mm.nii.gz ,
>> >and a dummy single face:
>> >
>> >g=
>> >        faces: [1 2 3]
>> >          mat: [4×4 double]
>> >     vertices: [902629×3 single]
>> >
>> >I then applied
>> >
>> >wb_command -surface-apply-warpfield  mrigrid.surf.gii
>> >Tfm_native2standard.nii.gz  WARPED2NATIVE_mrigrid.surf.gii -fnirt
>> >Tfm_standard2native.nii.gz
>> >
>> >but I got the following error
>> >
>> >While running:
>>
>> >/mnt/beegfs/home/georgios.michalareas/workspace/toolboxes/other/workbench-
>> >v1.3.2/workbench/bin_rh_linux64/../exe_rh_linux64/wb_command
>> >-surface-apply-warpfield mrigrid.surf.gii Tfm_native2standard.nii.gz
>> >WARPED2NATIVE_mrigrid.surf.gii -fnirt Tfm_standard2native.nii.gz
>> >
>> >ERROR: surface exceeds the bounding box of the warpfield
>> >
>> >Is there a way to just transform any X,Y,Z of standard space to the
>> >corresponding X,Y,Z of Native Space.
>> >
>> >
>> >Thank you very much for your help
>> >
>> >Best
>> >
>> >Giorgos
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >--
>> >------------------------------------------------
>> >Dr. Georgios Michalareas
>> >Neuroscience Department
>> >Max Planck Institute for Empirical Aesthetics
>> >
>> >email: g...@aesthetics.mpg.de
>> >phone: +49 69 8300479-325
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