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- - ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] ogc required to play?? > "The more they overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up > the drain." -Mr. Scott (Star Trek III) > > Sorry for the Star Trek quote, but I thought it appropriate :-) > > Instead of Banning WON IDs, why not allow only certain WON IDs to > be permitted (basically, require a person to register with a server > before playing). In the MOTD, have an e-mail address were a person > could find out how to join and what is expected of the members. At > this point, you prevent the player from joining the game (or make > him a spectator). When player registers, have a password and his > WON ID. When they connect, they must enter their password to join > the server. If the member violates the rules, remove his WON from > the list. If a person wants to make his server wide open, he could > set a server variable to allow an open server. > > This does not prevent cheating, but give a mechanism to keep > violators out. It should be relatively simple to code, and > hack-proof (unless they hack the server computer itself). You could > even encrypt the WONID/password file. > Or, a variation on this. Do what Tribes2 does. It's a very good way of doing it. First time you run the game online, you register your cd key along with your player name, so when you come along in future you enter your username and password and are allowed on the servers. It works very well, and it only relies on you keeping your password secure. Also, the cd key only need be entereed once. If you reinstall, all you need is your user/pass. If someone tries to register with your cd key, they can't. Stu > > Tim Holt wrote: > > > I feel like the whole thread of this conversation is going the > > wrong way. Ppl keep wanting to make more and more > > complex/technical solutions to this problem of cheating. > > Signatures, IDs, etc. etc. etc. > > It's very much like if someone breaks into your house - so you > > put bars on the window, and then they get in the front door, so > > you replace it with steel - and then they pick the lock - so you > > add an > > fingerprint/retinal scanner - so they then come down your chimney > > - so you close the fireplace - so then they use a chainsaw to > > come through the walls - so you side the house with steel - so > > they use the chainsaw on the roof - so you.... Well you get the > > idea. > > > > I have no "fix", but I do have a feeling that the "harder walls = > > better security" is not the way to solve this problem. You're > > all thinking very comfortably inside the box - need to think > > outside the box. > > > > IMHO. > > > > Tom wrote: > > > > > we could have product activation like micrsoft with the phones > > > personnaly manned by valve > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Ack Doh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 5:00 PM > > > Subject: Re: [hlcoders] ogc required to play?? > > > > > > > > > > > >>i've always wondered why, during production, cd keys are not > > >>hard coded > > >> > > > onto > > > > > >>the cd-rom itself...instead of a machine that prints out > > >>stickers with unique key's, have a machine that writes bytes > > >>onto a specific location on the cd-rom itself... > > >>i know there are upsides and downsides to this...copying the cd > > >>= copying the key...but then it isnt immediately visible, and > > >>has to be viewed by inserting the cd-rom itself into a > > >>drive...etc... > > >> > > >>/quit rambling > > >> > > >>________________________________________________________________ > > >>_ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > > >> > > > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com> iQA/AwUBPDoR+BQ7CLlBS2gGEQIX7ACg2Y/zvTlsv4Z+iMXg2paRFImVOWMAn3eA 5X1beLIzdTTQx7s+LPic7/hm =GzVF - -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com> iQA/AwUBPDoSARQ7CLlBS2gGEQKDfACeL/TJ+804OPw4Hrs/FHGUK6xHPPkAoLQN kf3yzs2468paL3OyO5e8OW4J =1hRl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
