One more small wrinkle.  Apparently you can't just send a command to a screen 
you haven't attached to at any point.  So in order to be sure the command 
works, you have to add "-p 0" to the command line.  So the lines from my script 
look something like this now.

message="I fart in your general direction!"
command="sm_csay $message\015"
su -c "screen -S srcds -p 0 -X eval 'stuff 
\"$command\"'" cc-server

But basically as I said, I have now created a small script that allows 
me to send csay messages to the server any time, without having to 
attach to the screen.  That is in addition to the much improved shut 
down scripts.  I'm just pleased as punch.

Combine this functionality with a script that queries the server, and 
suddenly you could have quite a useful little interface between you and 
your server, without the dangers inherent in attaching to a running screen.

Drek

Tony Paloma wrote:
> "or have a brain cramp and accidentally enter the exit command. This will
> prevent that possibility."
> Been there ;)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Crazy
> Canucks
> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 2:17 PM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] rcon command linux
>
> Wow, there are all kinds of uses for this.  I'll be able to create a 
> script that allows me to send messages to the server without having to 
> attach to the screen.  I'm always paranoid I'm going to accidentally hit 
> ctrl-c, or have a brain cramp and accidentally enter the exit command.  
> This will prevent that possibility.
>
> Drek
>
> David A. Parker wrote:
>   
>> No problem.  Glad that it's working out well.
>>
>>      - Dave
>>
>> Crazy Canucks wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> But thanks again for putting me on to this.  This has allowed me to use 
>>> the "exit" command from the hlds/srcds console which is much better than 
>>> the "killall" command I was using because it shuts the server down 
>>> properly by kicking clients with a reason, and closes and saves the log 
>>> file.
>>>
>>> Drek
>>>
>>> David A. Parker wrote:
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> I bet you needed to replace the space within the command string with 
>>>> "\040", like this:
>>>>
>>>> su - cc-server -c "screen -S srcds -X eval 'stuff sm_csay\040test\015'"
>>>>
>>>> I didn't catch that there was a space between "sm_csay" and "test" 
>>>> before, and I forgot to mention that you need to use the "\040" escape 
>>>> sequence in its place.
>>>>
>>>>      - Dave
>>>>
>>>> Crazy Canucks wrote:
>>>>   
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>> Well, maybe that wasn't it.  What I was trying to do was use SourceMod 
>>>>> and AMX Mod X commands from the console.  This is what I've come up
>>>>>           
> with 
>   
>>>>> now that works.
>>>>>
>>>>> command="say test\015";su -c "screen -S srcds -X eval 'stuff 
>>>>> \"$command\"'" cc-server
>>>>>
>>>>> I expect that I don't need the $command variable, but I am going to be 
>>>>> using this in a script anyway, so the contents of the command will be
>>>>>           
> in 
>   
>>>>> a variable.  So what was required was the escaped double quotes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Drek
>>>>>
>>>>> Crazy Canucks wrote:
>>>>>     
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>>>> I think I was flummoxed by a charset problem.  I cut and pasted from 
>>>>>> your post, and I think some of the characters were screwed up by the
>>>>>>             
> cut 
>   
>>>>>> and paste.  Anyway, it's working now, thanks very much.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Drek
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David A. Parker wrote:
>>>>>>   
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> That's odd.  It works on my TF2 server just fine, using su in the
>>>>>>>               
> same 
>   
>>>>>>> way you tried.  The screen is owned by the srcds user, but if I log
>>>>>>>               
> in 
>   
>>>>>>> as my regular user, I can do this:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> su - srcds -c "screen -S tf2-server -X eval 'stuff status\015'"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I enter the srcds user's password, and then the status command will
>>>>>>>               
> run 
>   
>>>>>>> on the server's console.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have you tried logging in directly as the screen's owner (instead of 
>>>>>>> going through "su") and trying the screen command that way?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Crazy Canucks wrote:
>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> That made no difference.  Any chance it is a charset issue with the
>>>>>>>>                 
> 015 
>   
>>>>>>>> ascii code?  I think the charset for my server is utf-8.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Although come to think of it, that probably isn't the issue, as when
>>>>>>>>                 
> I 
>   
>>>>>>>> look at the console, there is nothing there at all, so it probably
>>>>>>>>                 
> isn't 
>   
>>>>>>>> an issue with the return character.  I'll do some more futzing
>>>>>>>>                 
> about...
>   
>>>>>>>> Drek
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> David Parker wrote:
>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> The way you have it written, cc-server is the user and srcds is the
>>>>>>>>>                   
> name of the screen.  Is this correct?  If it is, this might work better:
>   
>>>>>>>>> su - cc-server -c "screen -S srcds -X eval 'stuff sm_csay
>>>>>>>>>                   
> test\015'"
>   
>>>>>>>>>     - Dave
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: Crazy Canucks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>> Date: Monday, December 8, 2008 9:50 pm
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] rcon command linux
>>>>>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
>>>>>>>>>                   
> <hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com>
>   
>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>> Regrettably, I can't get it to work.  This is the command I used:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> su -c "screen -S srcds -X eval 'stuff sm_csay test\015'" cc-server
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Any idea why it isn't working?  No error message, and the 
>>>>>>>>>> screen name is 
>>>>>>>>>> correct, but when I look at the console, there is nothing there.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Drek
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> David Parker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>> Glad it helped.  It's really handy to use in cron jobs if 
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>> you want to automate things on your server.  I use it in a 
>>>>>>>>>> cron job to put our TF2 server into birthday mode every Thursday 
>>>>>>>>>> (and switch it back to regular mode every Friday).
>>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>      - Dave
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Crazy Canucks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Monday, December 8, 2008 7:14 pm
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] rcon command linux
>>>>>>>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list 
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>> <hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com>>
>>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot for this.  I've wanted a way for my shut 
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>> down 
>>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>> script to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> send shutdown warnings to my server.  I figured there 
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>> had 
>>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>> to be a way, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> but I couldn't figure it out last time I took a stab at 
>>>>>>>>>>>> it.  :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, Drek
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> David A. Parker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can send commands to a running screen like so:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen -S myscreen -X eval 'stuff stats\015'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This would send "stats" followed by a return (\r) to the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>> screen named 
>>>>>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "myscreen".  You'll see it on the console if you attach 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>> to myscreen 
>>>>>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>> afterward.  I don't know of a way to capture the output 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>> on a screen, though.
>>>>>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>        - Dave
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joseph Laws wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I imagine that would still be logged.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marcel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there a way to store the actual "screen" in a variable 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>> or 
>>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>> text file?
>>>>>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be cool to "send" a command like "stats" to the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>> screen and get 
>>>>>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the output of it. Where the first "problem" would be to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>> automatically 
>>>>>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attach to the screen, enter command, detach the screen and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>> then get the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> content of the screen. This sould be done by a bash script.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This way you'd be able to generate nice mrtg graphs about 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>> fps etc. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *without* the rcon password and without logging of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
> access.
>   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Marcel
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