You are missing the point. Clock drift is not just "the time is wrong". The "clock" is just a timing mechanism for the kernel, and when this is changed drastically (1 second) it can do all sorts of weird things, in your case locking up some resource/clock-intensive software (a high-tickrate CSS server).
Just because an application freezes doesn't mean it's the application with the problem. There is more to an operating system than point and click. _______________________________________________________ Shane Arnold - clontar...@iinet.net.au "For want of a nail, the horseshoe was lost. For want of a horseshoe, the horse was lost. For want of a horse, the messenger was lost. For want of a messenger, the message was not delivered. For want of an undelivered message the war was lost." Ronny Schedel wrote: > If hlds would work in this way, it would be a serious design flaw. Imagine > what happens when the time change for daylight saving time occurs. The time > went back 60 minutes! Believe, it does not need to stop when a time drift > occurs, HL2/OB based servers can handle such a time drift without stopping > the server. > > > >> Because time/ticks is how the game server knows what players did in the >> last >> second, and how to predict for the next second of gameplay (at a very high >> level). >> >> The error is serious enough to warrant stopping the server - if they >> removed >> this error message, your next complaint would be that the game begins to >> suffer horrible prediction/lag every time this message would have >> appeared. >> >> The error message is just a symptom of the bigger problem (your clock is >> drifting too much too quickly). I would research further in to why you are >> having this time sync problem (maybe the ntp server you are using is >> lousy? >> Try another - or maybe even try and update the clock more often before it >> gets too out of sync). >> >> - Andrew >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com >> [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Ronny >> Schedel >> Sent: Thursday, 16 July 2009 11:55 PM >> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list >> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Counter-Strike 1.6 Update Available >> >> >> Why a server has to stop working when the time went back 1 second? Yes, >> because it is a bug in the hlds update. And yes, they will fix it. >> >> >> >>> Lo0l Valve don't need to fix anything, that you have time drift on your >>> server and use ntp to correct it is your problem not valves. Either >>> disable >>> ntp or reboot the server with the stock kernel as your high tic kernel is >>> causing your drift. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com >>> [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Ronny >>> Schedel >>> Sent: 16 July 2009 14:31 >>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list >>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Counter-Strike 1.6 Update Available >>> >>> >>> I reverted the binaries back to the previuos version and it runs fine. So >>> Valve has time to fix it, because this update is optional. >>> >>> >>> >>>> What he said, it's much easier for you to disable the NTP service than >>>> it is to wait for another CS1.6 update. Unless there is something >>>> hellishly wrong with your server you shouldn't need NTP anyway. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Shane Arnold - clontar...@iinet.net.au >>>> >>>> "For want of a nail, the horseshoe was lost. For want of a horseshoe, >>>> the >>>> horse was lost. For want of a horse, the messenger was lost. For want of >>>> a >>>> >>>> messenger, the message was not delivered. For want of an undelivered >>>> message the war was lost." >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> m...@bestgn.net.au wrote: >>>> >>>>> Remove the ntp service, >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com >>>>> [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Ronny >>>>> Schedel >>>>> Sent: Thursday, 16 July 2009 10:02 PM >>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list >>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Counter-Strike 1.6 Update Available >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I don't care what happens, the fact is the server stops and does not >>>>> respond >>>>> >>>>> after this. I get these messages also in HL2/OB based servers and they >>>>> run >>>>> without any problem. So we need a fix for this. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Looks like ntp drift to me, >>>>>> >>>>>> Must be running high ticrate? >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com >>>>>> [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Ronny >>>>>> Schedel >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, 16 July 2009 8:52 PM >>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list >>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Counter-Strike 1.6 Update Available >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> There is a seriuos problem with this update, the server stops after >>>>>> the >>>>>> message: >>>>>> Warning: system time went backward by 1 seconds >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> An optional update for Counter-Strike/Condition Zero is now >>>>>>> available. >>>>>>> Please run hldsupdatetool to receive. This update was previously >>>>>>> available as a beta. The specific changes are: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Half-Life Engine >>>>>>> - Added -sys_ticrate command line option to allowed forced override >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> ticrate >>>>>>> - Prevent more cases of server redirection >>>>>>> >>>>>>> CS/CZ >>>>>>> - Added -nobots option to allow forced override of bots on servers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jason >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>> archives, >>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>>> please visit: >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>>> please visit: >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>> please visit: >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>> please visit: >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
