Our next meeting is scheduled for 6 April. Bernie gave me (and Samson, who agreed to help manage it) access to a Google doc that is supposedly tied to the membership list in some way. As far as requests, I am not certain I see all of them, although I think since Bernie did his magic, I am started to see some of them.
regards. -walter On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 9:05 PM, Sebastian Silva <sebast...@fuentelibre.org> wrote: > Anyway, > > I propose to set up again a tracker queue and direct the members alias to > it, as well as the actual members of the membership and election committee. > > Once the board has confirmed the appointment, I will begin working on this > with Infrastructure team in coordination with Caryl and any other volunteers > who wish to join the effort. > > Do you have a board meeting scheduled? > > Regards, > Sebastian > > El 14/03/15 a las 19:52, Sebastian Silva escibió: > > Hi Gonzalo, > > I used my shell account to have a look to /etc/aliases on sunjammer. > > Currently memb...@sugarlabs.org directs to the following persons: > > samsongoddy, > walter, > bernie > > It used to be the case that there was a Request Tracker queue for > membership, but RT is no longer in use. I don't know when this was changed. > > I do hope membership applications have been processed. > > Regards, > Sebastian > > El 13/03/15 a las 08:49, Gonzalo Odiard escibió: > > Caryl and Sebastian, > Looks like a plan. > We can confirm that in the next SLOBs meeting. > About memb...@sugarlabs.org, I don't know who manage that, > maybe Bernie? > > Gonzalo > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Sebastian Silva <sebast...@fuentelibre.org> > wrote: >> >> Forgot to mention, we also need to get access to memb...@sugarlabs.org, >> since I suspect new membership applications have gone stale for a long time >> now. (see [1]) >> >> [1] >> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members#Applying_for_membership >> >> El 10/03/15 a las 15:05, Sebastian Silva escibió: >> >> Hi Caryl, >> Thanks for co-volunteering with me! >> >> As I see it, what needs to be done is: >> 1- Tally up a list of current Sugar Members's emails (starting from >> here) >> 2- Setup a survey to ask if they want to stay active, voting members >> (I propose to use the LimeSurvey software. Infrastructure team can set it up >> and it's easy to use.) >> 3- Get familiar with Selectricity, our current voting mechanism. Get >> access to the voting machine. >> 4- Improve the voting experience. For instance, en español >> instructions are a must in this community. >> 5- Determine in consensus when an election will take place. >> >> If we can be formally appointed, I'm certain you will be able to >> contribute to every step of the process. >> >> Regards, >> Sebastian >> >> El 10/03/15 a las 14:18, Caryl Bigenho escibió: >> >> Hi All >> >> For heaven's sake! No wonder we are always stalled. If it will help, I'll >> do the election. It can't be that much work. I have no conflicts of >> interest. What would I need to do? >> >> Caryl >> >> > From: la...@somosazucar.org >> > Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 13:54:09 -0500 >> > To: sebast...@fuentelibre.org >> > CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org >> > Subject: Re: [IAEP] Will anything change this time? >> > >> > Adam, >> > >> > To your "conflict of interest" concern and with all the love to my >> > husband, I can only respond that I believe I have enough skills and >> > merit by myself. >> > >> > Best wishes, >> > Laura V >> > >> > >> > >> > 2015-03-10 13:31 GMT-05:00 Sebastian Silva <sebast...@fuentelibre.org>: >> > > Well, >> > > It's 2015 and we are all hackers here. >> > > >> > > Your question is only a technical question, and the whole process has >> > > always >> > > been/forever will be open for scrutiny. >> > > >> > > Regards, >> > > Sebastian >> > > >> > > El 10/03/15 a las 13:25, Adam Holt escibió: >> > > >> > > If Sebastian becomes the Elections Committee which is fine with me, >> > > how do >> > > we avoid a more-than-Clintonesque conflict-of-interest with his wife >> > > running >> > > for office, and himself running the election? >> > > >> > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 2:06 PM, Sebastian Silva >> > > <sebast...@fuentelibre.org> >> > > wrote: >> > >> >> > >> Yes, >> > >> Exactly this is my proposal, from my prior email: >> > >> >> > >> I have volunteered to be member of elections committee since Oct >> > >> 2014. >> > >> I cannot do this work without being appointed the role by the board, >> > >> as >> > >> per the governance model. >> > >> >> > >> Therefore, the board would have to appoint me formally. >> > >> >> > >> Regards, >> > >> Sebastian >> > >> >> > >> El 10/03/15 a las 13:01, Gonzalo Odiard escibió: >> > >> >> > >> Would be good if someone volunteer to integrate the elections >> > >> committee >> > >> to replace Luke. >> > >> >> > >> Gonzalo >> > >> >> > >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Walter Bender >> > >> <walter.ben...@gmail.com> >> > >> wrote: >> > >>> >> > >>> Sebastian, >> > >>> >> > >>> The election was discussed in public SLOB meetings. We made public >> > >>> decisions with opportunity for public input. If you want to ask the >> > >>> board to revisit its decisions, that is fine. Please try to be >> > >>> concrete in your proposal. >> > >>> >> > >>> regards. >> > >>> >> > >>> -walter >> > >>> >> > >>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Sebastian Silva >> > >>> <sebast...@fuentelibre.org> wrote: >> > >>> > Actually, the governance model says nothing about election at the >> > >>> > end >> > >>> > of >> > >>> > every year, nor about shortages of candidates. It does say: >> > >>> > >> > >>> > Sugar Labs shall be governed by an Oversight Board, consisting of >> > >>> > seven >> > >>> > (7) >> > >>> > members elected by the Sugar community—the Sugar Membership. The >> > >>> > positions >> > >>> > on the Oversight Board will be on a two-year staggered basis. The >> > >>> > members of >> > >>> > the Oversight Board may be removed from the position at any time >> > >>> > by a >> > >>> > majority vote of the Community Members. Upon the resignation or >> > >>> > removal >> > >>> > of a >> > >>> > member of the Oversight Board, the Community Members shall elect a >> > >>> > replacement Community Member to serve on the Oversight Board. >> > >>> > >> > >>> > In my humble opinion, the decision about when to do elections >> > >>> > should >> > >>> > not >> > >>> > reside with the board, but with the elections committee. >> > >>> > Aparently lfaraone is MIA. >> > >>> > >> > >>> > At any rate this course of events should've been >> > >>> > discussed/announced to >> > >>> > the >> > >>> > Sugar Labs members. >> > >>> > >> > >>> > It could've been expected, that the board members with expired >> > >>> > period >> > >>> > would >> > >>> > simply no longer be board members and that the 2 candidates would >> > >>> > be >> > >>> > promoted to board members (as pretty much happened last year, >> > >>> > except no >> > >>> > shortage). >> > >>> > >> > >>> > I have volunteered to be member of elections committee since Oct >> > >>> > 2014. >> > >>> > I cannot do this work without being appointed the role by the >> > >>> > board, as >> > >>> > per >> > >>> > the governance model. >> > >>> > >> > >>> > I did not become a candidate because I was expecting do the >> > >>> > gruntwork >> > >>> > to run >> > >>> > the election. >> > >>> > >> > >>> > I will abide by what the majority of Sugar Labs members wish and >> > >>> > the >> > >>> > accepted oversight board. >> > >>> > If we are to run elections any time we need to also follow >> > >>> > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members : >> > >>> > >> > >>> > Currency assurance policy[edit] >> > >>> > >> > >>> > In order to ensure that the Sugar Labs Membership list is >> > >>> > reflective of >> > >>> > the >> > >>> > current status of the project and its participants, once a year >> > >>> > members >> > >>> > will >> > >>> > be asked to confirm that they still wish to be a Sugar Labs >> > >>> > Member. If >> > >>> > this >> > >>> > request bounces, or if a request has not been replied to after it >> > >>> > has >> > >>> > been >> > >>> > a) resent, b) checked for a more current email address, and c) six >> > >>> > months >> > >>> > have passed, the member will be sent a removal notice with an >> > >>> > invitation to >> > >>> > reapply. >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > I am in technical capacity and have the good will to begin working >> > >>> > with >> > >>> > these objectives as soon as I get the board's appointment. >> > >>> > >> > >>> > I would like to hear more opinion from the community about the >> > >>> > election >> > >>> > process. >> > >>> > >> > >>> > Regards, >> > >>> > Sebastian >> > >>> > >> > >>> > El 10/03/15 a las 11:47, Samuel Greenfeld escibió: >> > >>> > >> > >>> > If the current governing documents don't allow mid-term >> > >>> > replacements >> > >>> > due to >> > >>> > someone resigning or shortages, that might be something worth >> > >>> > amending >> > >>> > them >> > >>> > to include. >> > >>> > >> > >>> > On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Walter Bender >> > >>> > <walter.ben...@gmail.com> >> > >>> > wrote: >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> We run elections at the end of each year. If we have fewer >> > >>> >> candidates >> > >>> >> than slots to fill, we don't run the election. We'll run another >> > >>> >> election at the end of 2015. >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> Regards. >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> -walter >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Laura Vargas >> > >>> >> <la...@somosazucar.org> >> > >>> >> wrote: >> > >>> >> > I'm really sorry I didn't understood well your intructions at >> > >>> >> > that >> > >>> >> > time... >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > Now, my name is on the list ;D >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > According to your logic, we should run elections when we have >> > >>> >> > enough >> > >>> >> > candidates. >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > How many additional candidates do we need? >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > 2015-03-10 11:23 GMT-05:00 Gonzalo Odiard >> > >>> >> > <godi...@sugarlabs.org>: >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Laura Vargas >> > >>> >> >> <la...@somosazucar.org> >> > >>> >> >> wrote: >> > >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> Hi Gonzalo, >> > >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> Regarding the Sugar Labs Board, if no elections are going to >> > >>> >> >>> me be >> > >>> >> >>> made, how do you justify not to rotate the board members with >> > >>> >> >>> long >> > >>> >> >>> time active volunteers? specially those who have shown >> > >>> >> >>> interest, >> > >>> >> >>> like >> > >>> >> >>> I have >> > >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> Hi Laura, >> > >>> >> >> Why you didn't follow the procedure to make your candidature? >> > >>> >> >> You only needed add your name to >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2014-2015-candidates >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> That was requested many times, and there are only two >> > >>> >> >> candidates to >> > >>> >> >> fill 4 >> > >>> >> >> seats. >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> Gonzalo >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> Thanks and I really hope (for the sake of the kids) we can >> > >>> >> >>> run a >> > >>> >> >>> democratic community soon! >> > >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> 2015-03-10 10:06 GMT-05:00 Gonzalo Odiard >> > >>> >> >>> <godi...@sugarlabs.org>: >> > >>> >> >>> > Hi Sebastian, >> > >>> >> >>> > >> > >>> >> >>> > In this specific case, we will keep the replies from the >> > >>> >> >>> > deployments >> > >>> >> >>> > confidential >> > >>> >> >>> > and release a general inform with conclusions without >> > >>> >> >>> > naming the >> > >>> >> >>> > deployment >> > >>> >> >>> > involved. >> > >>> >> >>> > There are a reason for that, and anybody involved in >> > >>> >> >>> > negotiation >> > >>> >> >>> > with >> > >>> >> >>> > countries will understand. >> > >>> >> >>> > Every time than a country say will buy N number of hardware >> > >>> >> >>> > with >> > >>> >> >>> > X >> > >>> >> >>> > software, >> > >>> >> >>> > all the big companies start to pressure. >> > >>> >> >>> > Transparency have a big value, but we can't be naive. >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> and we are organizing a face to face meeting with all the >> > >>> >> >>> >> members >> > >>> >> >>> >> fro >> > >>> >> >>> >> SLOBs, >> > >>> >> >>> > >> > >>> >> >>> > >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> How will this help to address Dan's (valid) concern? >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> to discuss strategies. >> > >>> >> >>> > >> > >>> >> >>> > We need do a deep discussion we can't do by irc or email. >> > >>> >> >>> > I don't know if this is the solution, but we are trying >> > >>> >> >>> > something >> > >>> >> >>> > different. >> > >>> >> >>> > >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> We are discussing more ideas, like survey the community >> > >>> >> >>> >> and >> > >>> >> >>> >> teachers, >> > >>> >> >>> >> like >> > >>> >> >>> >> was proposed in this list. >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> And? >> > >>> >> >>> > >> > >>> >> >>> > >> > >>> >> >>> > I don't understand the question. >> > >>> >> >>> > >> > >>> >> >>> > Gonzalo >> > >>> >> >>> > >> > >>> >> >>> > _______________________________________________ >> > >>> >> >>> > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> > >>> >> >>> > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >> > >>> >> >>> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> > >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> -- >> > >>> >> >>> Laura V. >> > >>> >> >>> I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org >> > >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> Identi.ca/Skype acaire >> > >>> >> >>> IRC kaametza >> > >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> Happy Learning! >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> -- >> > >>> >> >> Gonzalo Odiard >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> SugarLabs - Software for children learning >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > -- >> > >>> >> > Laura V. >> > >>> >> > I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > Identi.ca/Skype acaire >> > >>> >> > IRC kaametza >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > Happy Learning! >> > >>> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > >>> >> > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> > >>> >> > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >> > >>> >> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> -- >> > >>> >> Walter Bender >> > >>> >> Sugar Labs >> > >>> >> http://www.sugarlabs.org >> > >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> > >>> >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> > >>> >> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >> > >>> >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >> > >>> > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> > >>> > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >> > >>> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> -- >> > >>> Walter Bender >> > >>> Sugar Labs >> > >>> http://www.sugarlabs.org >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> -- >> > >> Gonzalo Odiard >> > >> >> > >> SugarLabs - Software for children learning >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> > >> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >> > >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> > >> >> > >> -- >> > >> Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org ! >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> > > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >> > > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> > > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >> > > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Laura V. >> > I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org >> > >> > Identi.ca/Skype acaire >> > IRC kaametza >> > >> > Happy Learning! >> > _______________________________________________ >> > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > > > > > -- > Gonzalo Odiard > > SugarLabs - Software for children learning > > > > > _______________________________________________ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org _______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) 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