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________________________________ From: Ian S. Worthington <ianworthing...@usa.net> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wed, April 13, 2011 5:16:07 PM Subject: Re: Fear the Internet, was Cool Things You Can Do in z/OS XMASCARD EXEC i ------ Original Message ------ Received: 04:12 PM COT, 04/13/2011 From: Scott Ford <scott_j_f...@yahoo.com> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Fear the Internet, was Cool Things You Can Do in z/OS > Ok guys, let me ask one question, btw I also working in Security now,ACF2,RACF > and TSS. How many MF hackers or viruses have you seen, I have been at it 40yrs, > never one .. I am not saying it wont occur, but the odds are against it based on > the complexity of the environments. I have customers who dont even know their > own evnviroments. > > > Scott J Ford > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Rick Fochtman <rfocht...@ync.net> > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Sent: Wed, April 13, 2011 3:58:15 PM > Subject: Re: Fear the Internet, was Cool Things You Can Do in z/OS > > -----------------------------------------<snip>------------------------------------ > > > > Perhaps network/PC people simply can't conceive of a server being that > >secure/robust. Indeed, I know of a network guy who firmly believes that the MF > >would fail if presented with enough network traffic. > > > > To be fair, the burden of dealing with Windows security has fallen to the > >network folks, and, as they say, if you aren't paranoid, then you just don't > >understand :-) > > > > Further, it might be prudent to temper our confidence with the knowledge that > >no security is without holes. And the MF holds the crown jewels of the company > >and more. Extra layers of security are easy to justify. > > > > But a 'no outbound' position speaks to the fear that folks may catch on that > >the MF may be the best platform by far and work would start migrating back from > >the tinker toy farm to the citadel. > > > > Just my $0.02 > > > ----------------------------------------<unsnip>----------------------------------- > > Hal, you're right in that no security is without holes. However, RACF, physical > security and staff training and standards can make the MF security far tighter > than anything we've seen on x86 based servers so far. Emphasis on "SO FAR". I > won't say that the MF is "unbreakable", because as soon as I do, an ingenious > idiot will prove me wrong. It would be very interesting to see a RACF-like > product for the X86 world, but how many so-called "System Administrators" would > be able to grasp the concepts, much less the mechanics? > > Rick > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
