George Schlossnagle wrote:George (thinking [] is pretty but disliking alternative syntaxes)
Ok, let me recap my short visit on this mailing list: 1) Dangling commas in function calls were considered bloat
No, not bloat. I was worried that they might bite us at some point in the future if/when we want to add some features to function calls. I don't see this as a crucial feature.
2) Adding the local vars to debug_backtrace() was silently ignored
Because I think most people probably don't have much of an opinion on this. Personally, it could maybe be an optional parameter.
3) A prettier array syntax was discarded because it's an alternative
I don't think it has been discarded yet. I usually object to this kind of stuff but I do see that it improves the readability of code enormously (IMO). I think the answers on this list were split. How about you write a realistic sample script both ways and post it to the list. I think the examples people gave on this list were not realistic. Give me any language feature and I can show you how ugly it can be made :)
On the other hand Sara Golemon wrote:
> It's Perlish and ugly. It is *not* PHP syntax.
while e.g. private, catch, throw, final were introduced which are Javaesque and ugly. They are *not* PHP spirit of a simple language. But I didn't complain.
These features are a necessity for PHP to continue to compete in the web application development market.
After all this I guess I have to maintain my own PHP branch and hope for PHP6 to address some of my issues. Or switch to another language at some point, because a language to me is a tool, not a religion.
I don't think your issues are that serious that they require you to switch to a different language.
Andi
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