I'm sorry for replying to my own post, but I wanted to
mention, I see the jerkiness in xine as well.  I
tested this with a short recording that I also used to
compare decoder vs. yuv/xv.  (Ripped DVDs also exhibit
this in xine.)  So this seems to indicate to me it's
not a problem with Myth but with the yuv stuff in
ivtv.  Of course, I can't test xine+PVR350 decoder,
so...


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Over the last couple of weeks, I have noticed there
> is
> a problem with my yuv playback.  In summary, the
> playback using the new yuv extensions in ivtv is
> jerky, in a subtle but important way.  It might be
> described as a modulation of the framerate, where
> the
> modulation itself has frequency components of a few
> or
> several Hertz.
> 
> Here's the best way I can describe it:
> 
> When there is a scene that has something moving
> across
> the screen at a rate, say, of between 1 screen width
> per second down to 1/6 screen width per second, you
> can see that the video is updating in fits and
> starts.
>  It's as if the video spends, say, 1/8 of a second
> with a framerate greater than 30/s and then another
> 1/8 of a second with a framerate less than 30/s. 
> It's
> as if the feature moving across the screen
> alternates
> between fast and slow, with the alternation occuring
> a
> few times a second.  In fact, it quite well may be
> that the frames stop every now and then for a short
> period and then restart with a framerate > 30/s.
> 
> In a lot of cases, you can't tell, such as if you're
> just looking at a talking head spit out the day's
> news
> or something.  But certain types of scenes, such as
> showing the ground from a moving helicopter or the
> Enterprise moving across the screen in Star Trek,
> it's
> quite obvious, especially now that I know it's
> there. 
> If I look at the text news blurbs at the bottom of
> the
> screen while tuned to CNN, again, it's obvious.  In
> fact, it's bad enough that it is starting to get
> painful to watch scenes like these on my 36 inch TV.
> 
> If I use the 350's decoder instead, this jerkiness
> goes away.  Motion is as smooth as silk.  It's quite
> repeatable, to the point that now I can easily tell
> when the decoder is being used, or the yuv/xv stuff
> is
> being used.
> 
> Now, if there's much motion in the video, I'm even
> starting to get noticeably dizzy and it's hurting my
> eyes.  I don't remember if this has been a problem
> all
> along, but it's been about two weeks that I've been
> seeing it.  I had thought it might be solved with
> the
> vsync issues, but having looked at John Harvey's
> latest patch, it fixes the tearing but does *not*
> fix
> this jerkiness that I'm seeing.  It's still there
> and
> kinda sucks.  :(
> 
> So, the obvious questions are:
> 1) Is this a bug in ivtv or its yuv extensions?
> 2) Is there a setting I can use to fix this?
> 3) Is anyone else seeing this?  (Look carefully, and
> compare some recorded video using yuv and then the
> decoder - it's definitely there at least for me.)
> 4) Help!
> 
> My system specs:
> - Mythtv, version 0.18.1
> - P4 2.4GHz, 1Gig RAM
> - ivtv 0.3.7a, patched with John Harvey's latest and
> greatest patch
> - the ivtvdev_drv.o that came with 0.3.7a
> - SuSE Linux 9.2, with kernel 2.6.8-24.16-default
> - Xorg 6.8.1
> 
> I've also attached:
> - Relevant portions of /var/log/messages
> - Xorg.1.log
> - mythfrontend.log
> 
> I hope somebody can help!



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