This is a good point.

Sorting populates the field cache (internal to Lucene) for that field, meaning it loads all values for all docs and holds them in memory. This makes the first query slow, and, consumes RAM, in proportion to how large your index is.

Whereas boosting should be able to achieve the use case without these limitations.

Mike

Matthew DeLoria wrote:

This actually brings up an interesting question, and something I have been
curious about.

In this case, does it make more sense to do Boosting by Category, or to do
sorting? From what I understand, Lucene sorting involves putting the
relevant fields into memory, and then executing a sort.

Is this how sorting actually works in Lucene? If so, is it even a good idea
considering the large data sets in Lucene? What would really be the
difference between sorting and boosting?

M

On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 7:59 AM, Erick Erickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >wrote:

duuuuh, sorting. I absolutely love it when I overlook the obvious <G>.

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On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 4:58 AM, Michael McCandless <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Couldn't you just do a single Query that sorts first by category and
second
by relevance?

Mike


Erick Erickson wrote:

It seems to me that the easiest thing would be to fire two queries and
then just concatenate the results

category:A AND body:fred

category:B AND body:fred


If you really, really didn't want to fire two queries, you could create
filters on category A and category B and make a couple of
passes through your results seeing if the returned documents were in the filter, but you'd still concatenate the results. Actually in your
specific example you could make one filter on A.....

You could also consider a custom scorer that, added 1,000,000 to every
category A document.

How much were you boosting by? What happens if you boost by a very large
factor?
As in ridiculously large?

Best
Erick

On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 7:42 PM, Scott Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

I'm interested in comments on the following problem.



I have a set of documents. They fall into 3 categories. Call these categories A, B, and C. Each document has an indexed, non- tokenized field called "category" which contains A, B, or C (they are mutually
exclusive categories).



All of the documents contain a field called "body" which contains a
bunch of text.  This field is indexed and tokenized.



So, I want to do a search which looks something like:



(category:A OR category:B) AND body:fred



I want all of the category A documents to come before the category B documents. Effectively, I want to have the category A documents first (sorted by relevancy) and then the category B documents after (sorted
by
relevancy).



I thought I could do this by boosting the category portion of the
query,
but that doesn't seem to work consistently. I was setting the boost on the category A term to 1.0 and the boost on the category B term to 0.0.



Any thoughts how to skin this?



Scott




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