Hi Mary, In most cases, at the beginning of a Jaws install, the user is advised to make sure all screen-readers and magnification programs are shut down before continuing with the install. That being said, I always have Jaws running during an install, but using a different screen-reader could have unexpected side effects.
HTH, Rick Justice "Tomorrow's another day, another way!" "and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Otten" <maryot...@comcast.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + What's New This is probably a stupid question .... I have downloaded the update for Jaws 2018 that came out today. Because of issues I was having, I've been using NVDA exclusively, but I want to install this build and see if it helps. Can I do so with NVDA running? Is JAWS smart enough to know I have a screen reader running and don't want its self voicing install? Then once it is installed, I assume it goes over the top of my existing 2018 and when I launch it, any settings I saved will be present, and I can see how this new build goes?? Thanks. And yes. Go Blue! Dodgers in 2018! Mary On 12/12/2017 4:45 PM, wayne smith wrote: > Hey Mike! You da man! We all appreciate you so just let it pass and keep > on > giving us all the good stuff. You are great like lots of others and that > is > why we can live with your Dodgers issues. > > Wayne > > -----Original Message----- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On > Behalf Of Mike B. > Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 6:12 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + > What's New > > Hi Inamuddin, > > Well if you don't like me giving the list updates, then don't open them! > If > you have a problem report it to Freedom Scientific / VFO because if they > don't know about them they can't fix them. And furthermore, if you think > you can do a better job, you just let me know & you can take over! I do > this to save people time, & since it only takes a few extra minutes to > pass > on the information most list members from this list & from other lists' > appreciate it, but like I said, if you don't like them, don't open them, > or > do all the testing & posting of the updates yourself! > Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. > Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the > end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Inam Uddin > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 3:56 PM > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + > What's New > > > Dear friend, did you download install and use it before giving others this > information? > Apart from enhancements you must give them the bugs as well and you can do > it when you yourself will use it then you give information to others. > The matter of fact is that an old bugg has comeback into the latest update > of JAWS 2018 which was fixed in JAWS 18 that is no matter whichever email > we > are trying to read, it will read the first email! > With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID: > Charlsdarwin1 > > > Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement. > At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree. > You can contact me via gmail: > inamuddi...@gmail.com > inamuddin.rona...@gmail.com > outlook: > inam...@outlook.com > yahoo: > inamuddin2...@yahoo.ca > Add my Skype ID: > charlsdarwin1 > Meet me on facebook: > www.facebook.com/inamuddin786 > Follow me on my twitter ID: > www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1 > Call me on my cell numbers: > +92-300-2227598 > +92-334-3348409 > > From: Mike B. > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 4:32 AM > To: Jaws-Users > Subject: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + What's > New > > Hi All, > > Here's todays J2018 update download links & what's new in this release: > > 32 Bit: > > http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171210AXV34T/J2018.1712.10enu-x86.exe > > 64 Bit: > > http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171210AXV34T/J2018.1712.10enu-x64.exe > > Enhancements in JAWS 2018.1712.10 (December 2017) The following is a list > of > improvements made between the initial JAWS 2018 release and the December > 2017 update. > > Screen Shade for Additional Privacy > > For additional privacy, use the JAWS Screen Shade to prevent others from > seeing what you are typing or reading by turning the screen black. This > feature is available in Windows 10 and Windows 8. > > To turn on the Screen Shade, press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by the > PRINTSCREEN key, or triple tap with three fingers on a touch screen. > Alternatively, > Screen Shade can be toggled on or off using Quick Settings (INSERT+V). > Once > enabled, the contents of your screen can no longer be seen. The Screen > Shade > remains active until toggled back off, or JAWS is restarted. Screen Shade > can also be turned off by doing a right mouse click. > > Note: Screen Shade is strictly a privacy feature and will not increase the > battery life on a laptop or tablet. Additionally, Screen Shade is only > available when JAWS is running by itself. It cannot be used when running > Fusion, or when running JAWS together with ZoomText or MAGic. > > Speech On Demand > > Speech On Demand is a feature that allows you to limit the amount of JAWS > speech you hear as you navigate windows and documents or perform other > actions using hot keys. By default, when using Speech On Demand, JAWS only > announces actions that are associated with a limited set of hot keys. In > addition, mouse echo and typing echo are still available, which allows > JAWS > to read text that you point to with the mouse pointer and speak characters > and words as you type. You can quickly toggle between Speech On Demand and > full speech using a convenient layered command, or even make Speech On > Demand the default speech mode when JAWS starts. > > For JAWS users who rely heavily on Braille or for users of Fusion that can > see well enough to use the screen for tracking focus, too much speech can > be > overwhelming while navigating using the keyboard and mouse. However, users > still want to be able to use speech to read once they have moved to a > location on the screen, or just checking a Window Title, column heading in > a > table or spread sheet, or even reading the time from the System tray. In > both these situations, Speech On Demand can be very helpful. You will find > that switching applications with ALT+TAB or using ARROW keys to move > through > a document are silenced. Speech is only triggered when using a limited set > of reading commands such as speaking the current character, word, line, > paragraph, or doing a Say All. > > Layered commands to toggle the feature: > > list of 2 items > . Press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by S to toggle the speech mode between > Full > Speech and either Speech On Demand (the default) or Mute speech. Focus > braille display users can also press RIGHT SHIFT+M (DOTS 1-3-4) to toggle > between Speech On Demand and Full Speech. > . Press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by SHIFT+S while Full Speech is disabled > to > toggle between Speech On Demand and Mute speech. > list end > > By default, JAWS always returns to Full Speech when restarted after these > keystrokes have been used. To make permanent changes to the default > settings, do the following: > > list of 10 items > 1. Press INSERT+F2, and select Settings Center. > 2. If you want changes to only apply to a particular application, select > it > from the Application list. Otherwise, press CTRL+SHIFT+D to load the > default > settings file. > 3. In the tree view, expand the Speech Options group. > 4. Press the SPACEBAR on Speech Mode to change the default choice between > Less Speech or Full Speech. Full Speech is selected by default. > 5. Press the SPACEBAR on Less Speech Options to change the default choice > between Mute Speech or Speech On Demand. Speech On Demand is selected by > default. > 6. Expand the Speech On Demand Options group. > 7. If you do not want any reading hot keys to speak with Speech On Demand > active, use the SPACEBAR to clear the Allow Reading Commands check box. > Reading > commands are spoken by default. > 8. If JAWS Mouse Echo is enabled and you want to hear text as you move the > mouse with Speech On Demand active, use the SPACEBAR to select the Allow > Mouse Echo checkbox. This checkbox is cleared by default. > 9. If JAWS Typing Echo is set to Characters, Words, or Characters and > Words > and you want to hear what you are typing with Speech On Demand active, use > the SPACEBAR to select the Allow Typing Echo check box. This checkbox is > cleared by default. > 10. Choose OK to save your changes and close Settings Center. > list end > > See the What's New topic in the JAWS Help for a complete list of the > preset > designated reading commands available in Speech On Demand. > > JAWS > list of 13 items > . When JAWS is configured to start at the login screen and after logon, > addressed an issue in the Windows 10 Fall Creators' update where JAWS was > not working as expected if the "Use my sign in info to automatically > finish > setting up my device after update or restart" option is enabled. > . Resolved an issue where the Password field on the Windows 10 logon > screen > was being announced multiple times. > . Resolved an issue where JAWS was blocking the Windows shut down in the > Fall Creators' update. > . If Smart Navigation is set to Controls or Controls and Tables, which > offers a more efficient way to navigate in web-based applications by > treating most controls as a single unit when navigating by character or > word, headings are no longer treated as a single navigation unit. This > allows you to review the contents of the heading using LEFT or RIGHT ARROW > and CTRL+LEFT or > CTRL+RIGHT ARROW as well as select text just like in paragraphs. Smart > Navigation is > off by default and can be configured through the Startup Wizard located in > the JAWS Help menu, or toggled using the layered command INSERT+SPACEBAR > followed by X. > . JAWS no longer says "cell" when reading the current line in a table with > Smart Navigation set to Controls or Controls and Tables. You will now hear > a > slight pause to indicate a cell break. > . Addressed a customer reported issue with the USPS Tracking Research It > Lookup source not displaying results for a tracking number as expected. > . Due to major changes with the WebMD website, the Health search on WebMD > Research It lookup source has been removed as it can no longer search and > retreive results from this service. > . Resolved an issue where pressing INSERT+A twice quickly in the Windows > 10 > File Explorer was not displaying the contents of the address bar in the > Virtual Viewer as expected. > . Resolved issues with JAWS not reading correctly in a Windows 10 Command > Prompt window. > . JAWS now announces the All Day check box when creating a new appointment > in the Windows 10 calendar. > . Resolved multiple issues with using JAWS with the Windows 10 Calculator > in > the Fall Creators' update. > . If a Korean Vocalizer Expressive Voice is installed, resolved a customer > reported issue where JAWS was not automatically switching to the Korean > voice on a web page containing Korean content. > . Addressed issues with a couple Research It lookup sources in the French > version of JAWS not displaying results as expected. > list end > > Kindle for PC > list of 1 items > . Amazon Kindle books can contain links to other parts of the book or to > other content on the web. JAWS now indicates when text is a link and > allows > you to press ENTER or the SPACEBAR to activate the link. > list end > > Microsoft Office > list of 6 items > . Addressed an issue where JAWS was not announcing auto-complete > information > when typing email addresses in the Windows 10 Fall Creators' update of > Outlook 365. > . When typing a name in the header fields of a message in Outlook 365, > JAWS > now plays a sound to indicate when the auto-complete list opens and > closes. > While the list is open, UP and DOWN ARROW navigates the auto-complete > suggestions and pressing INSERT+UP ARROW now reads the currrently selected > name and email address. > . When using DOWN ARROW to move through a Word document containing > graphics, > addressed a customer reported issue where JAWS was not always consistently > indicating when focus moved to a graphic. > . When using AutoSum in Excel 365, addressed a customer reported issue > where > JAWS was not automatically reading the default range when pressing > ALT+EQUALS. > . If the virtual ribbon is active, resolved a customer reported issue > where > various split buttons were not being displayed when navigating Office > ribbons. > . Resolved an issue in Outlook 365 when in the "To:" field and trying to > type in addresses for your message. > list end > > Web Browsers > list of 9 items > . Continued improvements to JAWS performance with Edge. These include > addressing issues with JAWS not always indicating headings and links on > various pages as well as adding support for automatically announcing > notifications such as when you download a file. > . If you switch to the JAWS application window from Edge, resolved a > customer reported issue where you could not access any JAWS options. > . Addressed an issue with JAWS losing the current position on a web page > in > Chrome when switching to another application and then back. > . Addressed a customer reported issue where JAWS was not reading as > expected > when navigating a parrticular ARIA menu. > . JAWS no longer incorrectly turns on Forms Mode when a toggle button is > activated, even if Forms Mode is set to Manual. > . When selecting and copying text from a web page in Internet Explorer for > pasting into another application, resolved an issue where the wrong text > was > sometimes being pasted. > . Resolved an issue where JAWS was not identifying combo boxes as expected > in Chrome. > . Resolved an issue in Chrome where JAWS was saying "clickable" even on > areas of a page that did not contain links. > . Resolved a customer reported issue with a web page that displays math > content using role="math" not being displayed correctly in braille. > list end > > Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. > Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. 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