I use the laptop layout all the time regardless of whether I'm using a full desktop keyboard or not. Having the caps lock act as a jaws modifier is always nice.
-----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of rosecomb...@cox.net Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 2:59 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing I have never grown accustomed to the laptop keyboard, probably never will, bought a laptop and then a separate keyboard because I was so unproductive with the laptop keyboard, maybe it is that I have used Jaws for 20 years and started on the desktop, I don't know and the previous programs I used the number pad, but switching just has never worked for me. Oh, well, hope I never have to send a dmp file to you. -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Eric Damery Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 11:00 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing Great question about how to reach the keys... I'll tell you the two ways I do it. 1. I have a desktop keyboard. The first way is to move my right hand to the NumPad and press and hold the Zero/Insert Key with my thumb. 2. Then with my left thumb on the Windows Key, rather than the ALT Key, I reach up with left index finger to find the F4 Key and press. The second option. Since I always run JAWS with Laptop Layout (even when on a desktop keyboard), I can press the CapsLock and WinKey with the left hand, and use my right hand to locate and press the F4 Key. HTH. Eric Damery VFO(tm) | VP Software Product Management 11800 31st Court North, St. Petersburg, FL 33716 T 727-299-6110 F 727-803-8001 edam...@vfogroup.com www.vfogroup.com -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 12:11 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing Very good. Thanks again. Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 10:37 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing OK, now tell me how I am to reach all these keys at once on a keyboard with one left Windows key? I have not had the freezing problem but I don't have large hands, using standard desktop layout. I will probably never need it, I hope but for heaven sakes how does one manage such reaches. -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Eric Damery Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 9:32 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing Hello list, The dump command (JAWSKey+WindowsKey+F4) will restart JAWS automatically while it creates a dump file to show what was happening at the time of the loss of speech. It would be potentially very helpful to contact the Support department and offer the Dump File with an explanation of what you were doing when it the loss of speech occurred and how often you are seeing this. These issues are difficult to track down as they happen randomly and most certainly have something to do with JAWS interacting with UIA from Windows. We are making progress on this every day and appreciate your continued feedback and support in tracking these down. Regards, Eric Eric Damery VFO(tm) | VP Software Product Management 11800 31st Court North, St. Petersburg, FL 33716 T 727-299-6110 F 727-803-8001 edam...@vfogroup.com www.vfogroup.com -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 11:21 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing I think this is the "JAWS dump" keystroke referred to in the original post. I did not think this keystroke automatically restarted JAWS? I'd better give it a try. Usually I just kill JAWS with task manager, or nowadays, process explorer, since task manager got ridiculously slow and basically unusable lately. -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: January 29, 2018 10:48 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing I'm not sure it's been mentioned in this thread, but when I experience freezing for a few seconds, I press JAWS key+Windows key+F4. This command almost always restarts JAWS within another few seconds. I believe it helps to first alt-ab out of the application where the freeze occurred. -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of George Marshall Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 10:41 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing Hi Dave: I have only JAWS 17 and JAWS 2018 on my computer at this time, I would have to go out and download 16, but appreciate your Input. Thanks, George R. Marshall geoma4.marsh...@gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David G. Carlson Via iPhone Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2018 11:20 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing George, If you have jaws 16 on your machine, run jaws 16 for a while and see if the problem goes away. I m betting on it will. Dave Sent from my iPhone On Jan 28, 2018, at 8:10 AM, George Marshall <geoma4.marsh...@gmail.com> wrote: Hi: I am using Windows 7, jaws 2018 and eight gig of RAM. I have the freezing problem it will freeze while reading email or in Microsoft word version 10 and I've seen it do it on the Internet. Have no idea what the solution is. Thanks George R. Marshall geoma4.marsh...@gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2018 7:00 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing I must report that I am not experiencing this freezing problem at all here. In fact 2018 is quite stable on the systems I have it installed and use every day as a matter of fact. Naturally all systems do not act the same for various reasons. -----Original Message----- From: John Vernaleken` Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 7:16 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing I guess it comes down to the question - Is it Windows 10 or JAWS? I think JAWS. John -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of joediner...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 5:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing I am running JAWS 2018 on a Windows 10 Pro machine and experiencing the same thing regarding freezing. In fact it happened to me the other day when I was taking a Freedom Scientific certification exam Thinking there is a little bit of irony there. If you leave the machine alone speech usually returns in 3 or 4 minutes. -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of John Vernaleken` Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 5:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing I have JAWS 2018 and run Windows 10 and it seems to be freezing up more often than a few weeks ago. John -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of George Martinez Sr Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 4:27 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing Just got home & saw this meeting but I am wondering WHICH version of JAWS is freezing? George A. Martinez, CPA O-602.368.8854 F-206.666.2589 C-602.368.5424 "I've learned....That everyone wants to live on top of the mountain, but all the happiness and growth occurs while you're climbing it." attributed to Andy Rooney -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 12:05 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing Hello: This week, I'm noticing jaws just randomly freezes on me. I could be reading an email, surfing the web, writing in word, yelling at the dog, and poof it would just stop working. I would do the jaws dump command and then try to bring it back with the hotkey but it doesn't come back up, unless I reboot. Thoughts? 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