While backing up to a second internal HD is better than nothing, it is not
optimal. Depending on how important your data files are to you and your
family, using the internal drive does not protect you from fire, theft, or a
software glitch rogue virus or user error which deletes or damages the
backup data on the second HD. External
hard drives are dirt cheap...you can pickup a 1TB unit on sale on Amazon for
under $60 with free shipping. I have seen 500gb units on Amazon for under
$40. Using the external HD is much easier and more convenient than burning
the data to DVD.
The link to Karen's Replicator on the jaws-users.com site is:
http://www.jaws-users.com/programs/FileManagement/ptreplicator3.3.5-setup.exe
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don & Cher Bosch" <oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS accessible system back up methods
I'll look for that program- sounds like a good thing. Thanks for the
settings.txt hint, David. Guess I'd better give Image for Windows another
try- since both you and John like it so much. I have a second internal
hard
drive which is 160 GB- and should be adequate for creating the image. No
one
has commented on my question re external drives with their own software-
so
guess that's an unknown as far as JFW accessibility is concerned.
Cher
Cher
-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 8:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS accessible system back up methods
So true, I've been using it for a number of years already myself and it's
a
nice little deal. Personally my favorite version is 3.35 because once you
configure the jobs the way you want them simply copy out the settings.txt
file so if you ever need to re-install the program or anything like that
just paste that file back in it's program directory and your jobs are all
back just the way you want them to be.
David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.
-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of John M.
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 8:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS accessible system back up methods
Using Karen's Replicator, you can setup a series of "jobs" to copy all of
your data files to a backup location, such as a flash drive or external
HD.
Whenever you want to backup your data, you attach the backup device to
your
computer and run the predefined jobs. That's it. By default, KR only
copies
those files which have changed since the last time it was run. This makes
the backup process lightning fast.
By comparison, if you are manually copying files, you may forget to copy
the
contents of a particular folder. Using KR is a very clean and relatively
simple method for maintaining a backup of data files. It is not the tool
to
use for making a backup of your entire computer. That job is best left to
a
program such as Image for Windows or other imaging software.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don & Cher Bosch" <oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS accessible system back up methods
John, that is very interesting. I read great reviews about Rollback RX
and
one list member highly recommended it. At present though, you can only
store
the snapshots on your C: drive- not what I had understood when I
purchased
it. I already bought Image for Windows but only used it once when I saw
how
much disk shuffling was involved. I'm looking at external hard drives-
but
I
do have a second internal drive for storage- which should be of some
help.
Does Karen's Replicator have advantages over just copying files manually?
Cher
-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of John M.
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 3:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS accessible system back up methods
From what I have read, Rollback RX is not a data backup solution.
Essentially, it is an enhanced version of the system restore function
which
is built into Windows. Data backup implies that your data is being stored
on
media which is separate from your computers internal hard drive. You are
only kidding yourself if you believe that Rollback RX is backing up your
data.
You don't have to purchase a copy of Image for Windows. You can use a
program such as Karen's Replicator to maintain a copy of your data files
on
an external hard drive or flash drive. I use a combination of both Image
for
Windows to create images of my entire computer on a monthly basis and
Karen's Replicator to backup my data files on a weekly basis. If I am
working a project where I am spending a lot of time editing files, I
backup
those files daily by copying them into a DropBox folder. The question you
have to ask yourself is how much time are you willing to spend to
recreate
lost files--if they can be recreated at all.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don & Cher Bosch" <oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS accessible system back up methods
I watched a podcast of Image for Windows- perhaps by someone else. I'll
check out David's. I understand that Rollback RX gives you back
everything-
including settings. It even has a way to retrieve files changed after
the
date of the roll back. Obviously since I didn't get to try it out with
this
hard drive failure, I am only going on hearsay- no experience yet :(
Cher
-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 4:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS accessible system back up methods
You should have looked at David's tutorial on Image for Windows. You
can
back things up to an external disk; you may need help when you have to
re-install the image but it means you wouldn't need a pile of DVD's.
As far as Rollback Rx, it appears to me to be a very nice system
recovery
product. But, I'm not sure it backs up all your data, it could, but I
didn't think it does.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don & Cher Bosch" <oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS accessible system back up methods
Guess I have just learned that sad fact the hard way- have never
experienced
a hard drive problem during nearly 30 years of working with computers.
The
hard drive was sent back for replacement- and the vendor wanted $600 to
$800
to retrieve data.
I have a second internal HD which was a couple of years old, but had
not
gotten around to figuring out whether Rollback RX could back up to 2
different drives or not. The new computer's OS was also new to me, so
was
still trying to get everything installed and figure out what back-up
option
to use. I had used Image for Windows but thought that the shuffling of
several disks was rather unwieldy; so was now trying out and getting
used
to
Rollback RX and not getting very helpful responses back from their tech
support.
Cher
-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On
Behalf Of John M.
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 12:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS accessible system back up methods
If your data is important to you, you must maintain at least three
copies
of
your data on at least two different types of storage media and in at
least
two separate locations.
For example,
Let's assume that your data files located on your computers internal
hard
drive are one copy stored in one location.
Next, you purchase an external hard drive, backup your data (or your
entire
computer) to the external drive and store the drive at a friend or
family
members home. Now you have two copies stored in two separate locations.
Next, you setup a cloud storage account and store a copy of your data
at
the
cloud service. You will now have three copies of your data, stored in
three
separate locations and on two separate types of storage media.
If your data is important, this scenario is the minimum starting point.
For
my data, I use the above scenario, plus I alternate my data backups
between
two external hard drives. I also copy the latest backup to two separate
flash drives and one of those flash drives is always with me.
You never trust your data to a single hard drive, no matter how new or
old
it is. I have seen hard drives fail in one week and I have seen hard
drives
run continuously for more than 10 years.
If the data on your failed drive is very important to you, email me off
list
and I will put you in touch with a data recovery service with very
reasonable prices.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don & Cher Bosch" <oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 10:51 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS accessible system back up methods
Dear List,
Just lost all recent data due to the failure of a 4 month old hard
drive.
Had Rollback RX installed (and thought my data was protected) but the
technician said he could not locate the files- and the hard drive was
turning extremely slowly.
Needing advice on whether to get an external hard drive or to check
out
cloud backup options. Some hard drives seem to have backup software
built
into them, but I'm skeptical about the accessibility of such programs.
I'm
also looking at what Seagate calls "expansion" hard drives- which may
not
have the backup software built into them- am still trying to figure
that
one
out. Would appreciate your experience and advice.
Cher
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