I have never attempted to send an attachment to any e-mail list. To be quite honest, I wasn't aware of the restriction since it never applied to me before. Thanks for the reminder.
JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE WITH GUIDE DOGS JAKE AND CALYPSO PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 1:07 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 DOCUMENT OCR, REPORT AND OBSERVATION John my friend, I'm surprised at you. I have never allowed attachments on any list I manage. I have included on the server for quite a while now the PDF file that Jonathon demonstrated on the pod cast for folks to try out. Now as long as we're on the subject I must give praise and this is something I do not often do since quite a lot of the updates in JAWS for the past few years do not normally apply to my needs, granted I'm probably in the minority on that point. All this year I have tried to get my bank to create accessible PDF files without any luck. Just a few minutes ago I downloaded my credit card statement and ran the OCR feature new in 16. I must give my Steelers hat a tip to FS because finally I can read the thing without running the risk of breaking my desk in the process. For my needs 16 has hit it out of the park. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of John Justice Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 11:52 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 DOCUMENT OCR, REPORT AND OBSERVATION I have worked with the new Jaws 16 Document OCR and found it to be quite effective. There are some observations I can make in hopes that this might help some of the list members whom are having trouble with that feature. I have attached a typical .pdf document. I hope that Mailman won't strip it out. 1. The new Document OCR works on the type of .pdf document which cannot be read normally by Jaws. This document is what is sometimes referred to as an "imaged .pdf document". Rather than an actual copy of the document in its original form, a photocopy is made which is then transmitted. For the sighted user, this does not present a problem since the document is visible when opened. That kind of document can be exported to an exterior program such as Open Book which then scans the document and is able to read it. Microsoft Word has a feature which can also convert the imaged material but it can be difficult to use. 2. When a document like this is opened, the only thing a Jaws user will hear is "Alert! Empty document" At that point, the new Document OCR can be very helpful. 1. Press Insert+Spacebar. Wait for the spoken confirmation, then press the letter D. A spoken confirmation will be heard: "Document OCR Started." Please note. This process is very slow. Once it has started, there is no way to tell whether the process is working unless the user tries to Alt Tab away from that screen. In that event, a message is spoken: "Document OCR In Progress. Gathering elements." If anyone would like a copy of it sent to them personally, I will be happy to do that. I believe what might be causing the concern expressed by some of the list members is the silence once the command is engaged and the length of time it takes to process a document. This is a five page document describing the condition of a house and detailing issues that the new owner might encounter. The results aren't perfect by any means but they are much better than anything OCR has been able to accomplish up till now. For the record, processing a five page imaged .pdf takes about two to three minutes. Once the operation is completed, Jaws begins reading immediately. MY most sincere compliments to the designers at Freedom Scientific for their efforts in perfecting this valuable tool. JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE WITH GUIDE DOGS JAKE AND CALYPSO PERSONAL E-MAIL: <mailto:john_just...@verizon.net> john_just...@verizon.net For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
