Yeah, cool; I was just sharing a way I've delt with it.
 Justin

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Michael B.
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 8:55 PM
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Hi Justin,

The people that had the Vertical Tab issue did get it resolved.  Thanks
much.
Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: Justin Williams
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Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problems With Selecting, Copying,And Pasting
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Was that not able to be done?
 Justin

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Behalf Of Michael B.
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 4:24 PM
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Hi Adrian,

Slap, slap!  LOL  Your're welcome.  I knew Jorge & yourself would find the
answer you were seeking in the post but, at the same time anyone else having
this Vertical Tab issue would get the rest of the info.
Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: Adrian Spratt
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Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 12:50 PM
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Mike, thanks for this.

You answered a question Jorge and I weren't asking, but buried in your post
is the solution to the question we did ask!! That's a back-handed
compliment, though you deserve all the praise you get.

We knew how to identify vertical tabs. What we couldn't do was perform a
search-and-replace for that character. I'd been trying ^11 as the search
term, but as Brian and you point out, the correct code is ^011. I just
tested a search-and-replace with the 0 added and immediately got rid of 24
instances.

So again, thanks. Please keep posting answers to the questions people
haven't asked, as well as all your right answers to the right questions.
Either way, you're a big help.

-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Michael B.
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 2:41 PM
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Hi Adrian & Jorge,

Try the following:
From: Brian Lee
The following steps should work:
1.       Press JAWS key with D to bring up the dictionary manager.

2.       Use CTRL with Shift and D to load the default dictionary manager.

3.       Tab to the tree view and press E for English.

4.       Expand the English option by using right arrow key.

5.       Use down arrow key and find the appropriate synthesizer.  You can
also press E for Eloquence, V for ?Vocalizer, V until you find Vocalizer
Expressive, etc.

6.       Use right arrow to open the appropriate synthesizer item.

7.       Press a backslash key until you find a backslash followed by 011.
JAWS should tell you that this equals Vertical Tab.

8.       Tab to the Change button and press spacebar.

9.       In the Actual Word field should be the \011.  Tab to the
Replacement Word field and press spacebar one time.

10.   Tab to OK and use spacebar.

11.   Use CTRL with S to save changes.

12.   Close the window using Alt with F4.

13.   You might or might not need to restart JAWS.
The above worked for me using a Vocalizer Expressive profile.
Take care.
Brian Lee
brianl...@charter.net

From: Brian Lee
I also noticed a \011 entry after the list of languages.  Without opening
English and Eloquence check after "Russian" in the list of languages.  I
switched to Eloquence and changed that entry and it worked.  Hope you get it
working.
Take care.
Brian Lee
brianl...@charter.net

From: Bill White
Hi, Mike. The only thing I would add to this post is that if the value
beginning with the backslash is not in the default dictionary under english,
and under your particular synthesizer, you may need to press the Add button,
instead of the Change button, add the \011 value in the Real Word field,
then tab to the replacement field and type the space character as the
replacement word. The other steps are valid.
Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: Adrian Spratt
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Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problems With Selecting, Copying, And Pasting
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I have the same problem and same inadequate workaround. The ASCII code is
11, and so a search-and-replace for ^11 should do the job, but it doesn't.

-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 1:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problems With Selecting, Copying, And Pasting
e-mail message content In Outlook 2016

 Adrien,
How about verticle tabs and how you get rid of them when re-editting a
forward?
I been deleting them manually one at a time, I think I tried the control + H
to get rid of them and it didn't work.

Thanks in advance,
Jorge

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 3:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problems With Selecting, Copying, And Pasting
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Yes, Mike, but altering it in different ways. In my experience, when a
message is set up to be forwarded, additional paragraph breaks appear,
sometimes lots of > (greater than) signs, and so on. The "unformatted
Unicode text" option in paste special simply conforms the font size and
style, etc., to the existing document or, if you haven't yet created a
document, to your default format. In Word, this feature saves your document
from being littered with all kinds of inconsistent line spacing, fonts, etc.


-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Michael B.
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 2:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problems With Selecting, Copying, And Pasting
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Hi Tom,

You will find that the paste special option comes in very handy.  I am aware
that selecting text while in a edit mode will alter the selected text but,
when copying text & pasting it into a text file, that's exactly what you're
doing.
Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Behler
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Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 11:05 AM
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Mike:

When I have encountered the problem, I was in reading mode with regard to
the involved e-mail.

In the latest situation, I tried to select, copy, and paste the info I
wanted after putting the e-mail in the forwarding mode, but only got partial
information, and some of what I did not want.

In this case, the info presented is in a table format, which, as Adrian
suggested, could be part of the problem.

Even though it is a bit more work, I can select, copy, and paste the entire
e-mail into a notepad document, and work with it from there.

I have yet to try the paste special option, but will do so at some point.

Dr.  Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Michael B.
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 1:23 PM
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problems With Selecting, Copying, And Pasting
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Hi All,

When y'all are copying text do you have the message open as if you were
reading the message?  Or, do you have the message in edit mode, as in
forward / reply mode?

Running Outlook Express , & not Outlook, I always have the message I want to
copy text from in an edit mode so the cursor won't jump around on me using
the text selection keystrokes.
Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: Adrian Spratt
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 8:14 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problems With Selecting, Copying, And Pasting
e-mail message content In Outlook 2016


Tom, I typically encounter this problem when the message consists of tables.

Regardless, my workaround is:

select and copy the entire message not with control-a,-but by placing focus
at the top of the message and pressing shift-control-end.
Paste the copied text into Notepad,
Select and copy that result with control-a, Paste the result into an empty
Word file.
Then I search for the passage I want and go from there.

If I paste from the email to Word, the confusing table format is retained.
As I write, I'm wondering if I've tried the control-alt-v paste special
method to paste as unformatted text. You might try that in order to skip the
Notepad step.

-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 9:36 AM
To: 'Jaws users list'
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problems With Selecting, Copying, And Pasting e-mail
message content In Outlook 2016

Hello, everyone.



Recently, I have been having problems with selecting, copying, and pasting
e-mail message content in Outlook 2016.



In many instances, the text I select does not correspond to what I later
copy and paste either into a word or notepad document.



I have tried routing the PC cursor to the Jaws cursor, but this does not
solve the issue.



The only way I can get the copied and pasted text to correspond to the
selected text is to select the text character by character, and then go
through the usual copy and paste process.



I believe this is a Jaws issue.



I'm using Windows 7 and Jaws 17 with Outlook 2016 here.



Any assistance would be appreciated.



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan





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