Yes that's perfectly fine with me guys.
Yamuna
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From: "Chris Belle" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>; "JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar
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Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 4:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Jsonar] OT: discussion on Sonar's audio engine sonic quality
Phil, with his permission, perhaps you could post these somewhere for the
rest of us to grab to listen to since you managed to get them.
At 08:36 AM 2/21/2011, you wrote:
Yamuna wrote: Hi there Guys,
Thanks thus far Chris and Phil for your encouraging replies.
Phil replied: your welcome!
Yamuna wrote: Phil, you spoke of Superior Drummer for Drums, trillion for
bass etc, have you perhaps got a project I can listen to, which you
produced
in Sonar, using some of these higher-end synths, but which you strictly
inserted as plugins to Sonar for the recordings?
Phil replied: I have lots of projects with Superior Drummer on them and
all
of the plug-ins in Sonar for EQ and compression are all Sonar ones, except
for Wave Arts Final Plug which, I use on the master bus because it's so
good
at making a mix sound loud without over doing it.
Yamuna wrote: My intention here is to listen for myself if there is any
inferior sound when the best of synths and effects are all going through
Sonar's audio engine.
Phil replied: talking of which, eventually managed to get those tracks off
your FTP server. But, FWIW! that took a while. Think they were coming
down
at 10kbps per second and that's on a just under 19MB broadband connection.
Also, your FTP server gave me a time out a couple of times when attempting
to do this. Anyway, have the mixes and here are my thoughts for what they
are worth. Note: I don't want you or, anyone else to take any of this
personally. As we all know, mixing and mastering is a fine art and a good
mixed and mastered track, really does make quite a difference. I shall
start with general comments on each mix, followed by suggestions on how to
improve them. I first took a listen to Viresh_03.mp3 and was immediately
struck by the lack of separation between instruments and lack of affects
processing on instruments. The mix also sounded really quiet so yes, I
think you may be a little conservative on this, smile. I then took a
listen
to Siya_OnLine.mp3 and feel that this mix is considerably better however,
there are still to my ears at least, issues with lack of separation.
Questions follow
1: when inserting softsynthes, do you simply insert them as stereo tracks
and run with that or, do you separate out the stereo tracks and have 2
mono
tracks instead? If not then, it's worth doing this as you will gain a lot
of control over the softsynthe in question as you will have separate pan
controls for each track. Also, there can be situations where you won't
want
a stereo softsynthe to completely dominate the image and using the above
method, will give you control over that.
2: Did you insert Session Drummer as a multiple output softsynthe and
break
out all of the drums in the interface to separate tracks and EQ and
compress
them all separately? If not then, this too will give you more control
over
the drum sound and the ability to shape it.
3: did you EQ and compress the bass softsynthe?
4: did you EQ and if necessary, compress all other keyboard
softsynthes/parts?
5: did you allow sufficient separation between all of the vocal tracks and
did you EQ and compress them?
6: did you switch all of the EQ's in Sonar from Pree to post on all of the
various tracks/busses after adding other affects such as compression etc?
Remember you will have to do that in the inspector as by default, they are
all switched to pree affects.
7: did you put anything on the master bus E.G., tape simulator,
compressor,
EQ etc?
Those are my thoughts on the mixes for now.
Yamuna wrote: You could put those up on the server if you have something
to
offer because I would really like to get a listen to what that might sound
like.
Phil replied: may be able to send the track directly to you or, set-up a
link somewhere. Would be happy to perhaps consider putting something on
your server but, unfortunately don't have the time running at the
above-mentioned kind of speed.
Yamuna wrote: Thanks a million.
Phil replied: your very welcome!
Regards, Phil Muir
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