As has been mentioned before, there are other vendor products that use the
extension .jsp to designate dynamically generated web content, so I don't
think you can assume that all sites that use that suffix are using Java JSP.

----- Original Message -----
From: Jesse Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2000 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: My boss needs convincing.


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> > Ask him to visit Shockwave.com
> > http://www.shockwave.com/bin/shockwave/main/frame_set.jsp
> > <http://www.shockwave.com/bin/shockwave/main/frame_set.jsp>  They use
JSP
> > there and not slow.
> > Dennis
>
> >> Is not this page written in Javascript?
> >> Vadim Shun
>
> They use javascript on the page for browser detection and shockwave
version
> detection and ad rotation, but since the file ends in .jsp one can assume
> that they are somehow dynamically generating some of the HTML and possibly
> some of the javascript that you see in the source. This site is not
> neccessarily the best example of JSP in action because the bulk of the
> performance is coming from shockwave.
>
> At the very bottom of this page:
> http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/industry.html there is a list of web
sites
> powered by .jsp that includes some more traditional type businesses.
>
> >>Has anybody seen convincing benchmarks proving JSP superiority in
> >>performance or reliability?
> >>That would make the point, otherwise the arguments for JSP are based on
> >>religious beliefs in Java, and that does not sit well with some bosses,
as
> >>some noted.
> >> Vadim Shun
>
> In regards to benchmarks of jsp performance vs. other server side
solutions,
> I have not come accross any myself (If anyone knows of a resource for this
> plz post), but at least with asp vs jsp, jsp is going to be faster because
> each page is only interpreted the first time that it is requested. ASP
pages
> get reinterpreted with every call (Check the archives, there was some
> discussion on this a while back). I haven't used ColdFusion myself but I
> have a good bit of experience waiting for pages to load on websites that
are
> implemented with it (and I'm on a T1).
>
> Another area that is going to affect performance is database access. As
far
> as this is concerned I only know the things to do to decrease overhead
using
> JDBC, but I have know idea how java stacks up against other server side
> solutions in this area. Again, anyone have a resource? (I know its a
little
> off topic but it does affect overall performance in jsp/servlet/bean
driven
> web aps... -Oh, ok, ok. I'll go subscribe to JDBC-interest)
>
> _jesse
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Todd L. Poole [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2000 3:16 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: My boss needs convincing.
> >
> >
> > My boss seems to have the "software engineer" background and is
continuously
> > critical about web technology that I work with. I develop web
application
> > using ASP and a database alone. I am not using any of my own components.
> >
> > Since I am learning java, I am finding it easier to understand and more
> > logical than Microsoft's programming languages. I would like to expand
into
> > using JSP, Servlets, and Beans, but my boss still thinks Java is slow
and
> > not as efficient as CGI programs written in C. I think he is full of it
and
> > I would like to go back to him with proven results from other people
using
> > this technology in a situation where load balancing is an issue.
> >
> > Until I am writing machine code - I will never please this guy, but I
would
> > like to prove him wrong just once with this.
> >
> > If you have any input, please share!
> >
> > Bored editing HTML pages....
> >
> > Todd
> >
> >
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