Dear Tobias, I don't read German well, but I think I get your point. In which case I would say -- please take it easy just a little around Christmas my friend. It isn't as if the Juenger list is so busy anyway, and it isn't as if we constantly take it over for our own chats. Today is a total one off ! It's the very first time I have seen the mails go totally off the Juenger topic in the whole time I have been a member.
Easy now my friend. Have a sense of lightness and humour. Greg. --- On Sun, 20/12/09, Tobias Wimbauer <wimba...@web.de> wrote: From: Tobias Wimbauer <wimba...@web.de> Subject: Re: [juenger_org] Black Sabbath and Ozzy Osbourne To: juenger_org@yahoogroups.de Date: Sunday, 20 December, 2009, 10:50 wollt Ihr nicht Eure privaten Unterhaltungen privat führen und nicht über die Jüngerlist? -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: "klaus gauger" <klaus_gau...@yahoo.com> Gesendet: 20.12.09 11:48:29 An: juenger_org@yahoogroups.de Betreff: [juenger_org] Black Sabbath and Ozzy Osbourne Dear Greg, I love the stuff Black Sabbath did in the seventies and eighties ( Ronnie James Dio is also a brilliant singer and musician), and Ozzy Osbourne has done great records in the last thirty years and had a lot of brilliant guitar-players working with him. ItŽs not heavy- weight academic stuff, but it is entertaining and funny, and that is sometimes more important than all this intellectual wanking. Yours, Klaus --- Gregory Whitfield <gregd...@yahoo.com> schrieb am *So, 20.12. 2009:* Von: Gregory Whitfield <gregd...@yahoo.com> Betreff: Re: [juenger_org] The papers written at our universities today An: juenger_org@yahoogroups.de Datum: Sonntag, 20. Dezember 2009, 11:39 Great point Klaus ! I used to do a little journalism ( art and music ) and I have to agree with you there ! I also saw Black Sabbath in the late 70's, and they were great. Greg. --- On *Sun, 20/12/09, *klaus * gauger *<klaus_gauger@ yahoo.com> wrote: From: klaus gauger <klaus_gauger@ yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [juenger_org] The papers written at our universities today To: juenger_org@yahoogroups.de Date: Sunday, 20 December, 2009, 10:28 Dear Joel, IŽll do the same. I am currently reading Ozzy Osbournes "I am Ozzy" ( his autobiography which came out some weeks ago). I believe such a book is more worth reading than most of the papers that are published at our universities today. Yours, Klaus --- Joel Dietz <jdi...@gmail. com> schrieb am *Sa, 19.12.2009:* Von: Joel Dietz <jdi...@gmail. com> Betreff: Re: [juenger_org] Juenger an influence on Fukuyama and the Neo Cons? An: "juenger_org" <juenger_org@ yahoogroups. de> Datum: Samstag, 19. Dezember 2009, 11:48 Only that you've convinced me not to read the paper. ;) Jd On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Gregory Whitfield <gregd...@yahoo. com> wrote: Dear boarders -- I circulated that Heidegger/Juenger paper to you all before I had actually read it myself. However, I have a number of problems with it -- I really had to stop reading when I got to page 14/15, and found Juenger's thought compared to political puppets and real lightweights such as Fukuyama and -- worst still -- the Neo conservative 'school' as a whole. Turnbull, the author of the paper wrote -- "If one examines the totality of ( Juenger's ) work as a whole, both pre and post second world war -- especially the ideas encapsulated in the late novels Aladin's Problem and Eumeswill -- Juenger's philosophy can be seen to be much closer to the 'cynical' and ' politically disengaged' forms of conservatism that dominated the late 20Th century's intellectual and political landscape ( represented in the neo liberal and neo Conservative modes of conservatism by Fukuyama and Wolfe.)" For a start, it's patently and utterly absurd that the author describes the Neo Cons and Fukuyama as 'politically disengaged,' and I don't need to explain my self further on that point. But even worse is Turnbull comparing the wisdom and insight of Juenger to the banal outlook of the Neo Cons, surely one the worst, most fraudulent, most vacuous,viciously and amorally hegemonic and morally void 'political schools' of the 20Th Century? No thanks. I couldn't read the paper any further than that. Any comments from the rest of the boarders? Greg. ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ Do You Yahoo!? Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verfügt über einen herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. http://mail. yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verfügt über einen herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. http://mail.yahoo.com -- Tobias Wimbauer | Wimbauer Buchversand Waldhof Tiefendorf Tiefendorfer Str. 66 58093 Hagen-Berchum Tel 02334-502826 / Fax 03212-5028261 USt-IdNr.: DE251720280 www.waldgaenger.de Blog: http://wimbauer.wordpress.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/wimbauer ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links
