Sorry supaya gak misleading... Most .net mocking frameworks BISA mock
concrete class.. tapi liwat proxy n brarti tetep require DI (yg better off
pake interface). TypeMock bisa langsung instrument class bytecode at
runtime.

On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Hendry Luk <hendrym...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hehe.... gw passive audience :)
>
> Kurang lebih hampir selalu dipake... Mostly karna 3 reasons:
> 1. TDD. Rata2 mocking framework di .net cuma support interfaces. Satu2nya
> mocking framework yg gw tau support concrete class dan static methods
> (sekaligus satu2nya yg gak open-source) adalah TypeMock, yg berbayar dan
> sering dianggap encourage bad practice.
> 2. Requirement dari many frameworks. Soalnya .net agak ketat dalam
> inherittable method. By default semua method adalah sealed, kecuali
> explicitely dinotate sebagai virtual (point of extensibility). Therefore,
> dynamic proxy (AOP, ORM lazy load, etc) cuma effective kalo codenya pake
> interface. Otherwise lo bakal mesti notate semua method lo jadi virtual.
> 3. Generally architecture di .net (yg kurang lebih juga sama di java),
> adalah onion architecture (
> http://jeffreypalermo.com/blog/the-onion-architecture-part-1/). Domain
> layer di paling core, lalu paling luarnya adalah infrastructure (UI termasuk
> infrastructure). Satu2nya cara achieve ini (yg juga karna circular
> dependency restriction) ya cuma dengan interface
>
> Tapi API bawaan .net framework emang sering lacking interface, jadi sering
> susah di-unit-test as it stands. Tapi karna sering diprotes, library2
> keluaran redmond recently semuanya based on interface n berpihak ke camp TDD
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Adelwin Handoyo <adel...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>    Weh henluk…
>>
>> Hahahha
>>
>> Gua baru ngeh lu ternyata join milis sini juga :p
>>
>> Practice nya sampe sekarang khan .net jarang pake interface pattern khan?
>>
>> Yah at least yang gua liat sih yah…
>>
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>> *From:* jug-indonesia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
>> jug-indone...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Hendry Luk
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 16, 2008 6:38 AM
>> *To:* jug-indonesia@yahoogroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [JUG-Indonesia] mengapa interface?
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>>
>> Dari awal dah ada ;)
>>
>> 2008/12/15 Nicholas I. S. <ni...@yahoo.com>
>>
>> Sorry, seharusnya gak include C#. AFAIK C# versi2 awal blom support adanya
>> interface, dan baru ada belakangan. Padahal C# itu keluarnya belakangan di
>> banding Java.
>>
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