https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=483013

--- Comment #2 from maxlefou <buttbad...@gmail.com> ---
thanks. I'm trying but there's something really wrong, now... When it happens,
no crash is reported. It hangs but doesn't say anything like if it was running
properly... And then of course bt can't do much...  kwin got an update as well
as some other kde related packages, maybe that's related... 

Now i don't know what much i can do. Isn't there any other way to get logs?
journald doesn't report anything either :(

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