I'll be excited to here the result! On Thu, Dec 28, 2023 at 2:43 PM CS <cs.temp.m...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Me too, especially SELinux. But not in this case. apparmor is disabled as far > as I know. > > I'm going to clone server1 into a server3 and see if the new server binds to > the port then and if one and three will HA effectively. Bit of a sledgehammer > approach but I'm at a loss too. > > CS, cs.temp.m...@gmail.com > > > On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 at 11:36, Darren Ankney <darren.ank...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> At some point we got off list. Putting us back on the list. Hope >> that is OK. Whatever the ultimate resolution is, the information may >> help someone in the future. >> >> I am at a loss. Have you checked for and/or temporarily disabled >> appArmor or SELinux to make sure that they are not the problem? >> Either of them might filter one application's access to the network >> but not another application even on the same network / port >> combination. I have bitten more than once by both of them. >> >> Thank you, >> >> Darren Ankney >> >> On Thu, Dec 28, 2023 at 2:28 PM CS <cs.temp.m...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > Unfortunately just ip address obscured. >> > =/ >> > Thanks >> > CS, cs.temp.m...@gmail.com >> > >> > >> > On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 at 11:25, Darren Ankney <darren.ank...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Hello, >> >> >> >> Is the "url" that is obscured a name or IP address? >> >> >> >> Thank you, >> >> >> >> Darren Ankney >> >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 28, 2023 at 2:07 PM CS <cs.temp.m...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> At this moment? You wrote it =) >> >>> >> >>> { >> >>> "Dhcp4": { >> >>> "hooks-libraries": [ >> >>> { >> >>> "library": "/xxx/libdhcp_lease_cmds.so" >> >>> }, >> >>> { >> >>> "library" : "/xxx/libdhcp_ha.so", >> >>> "parameters": { >> >>> "high-availability": [ >> >>> { >> >>> "this-server-name": "server2", >> >>> "mode": "load-balancing", >> >>> "auto-failover": true, >> >>> "peers": [ >> >>> { >> >>> "name": "server1", >> >>> "url": "http://xxx:8001", >> >>> "role": "primary" >> >>> }, >> >>> { >> >>> "name": "server2", >> >>> "url": "http://xxx:8001", >> >>> "role": "secondary" >> >>> } >> >>> ] >> >>> } >> >>> ] >> >>> } >> >>> } >> >>> ] >> >>> } >> >>> } >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> CS, cs.temp.m...@gmail.com >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 at 10:34, Darren Ankney <darren.ank...@gmail.com> >> >>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> Hi, >> >>>> >> >>>> Could you share your hooks configuration from server2? >> >>>> >> >>>> Thank you, >> >>>> >> >>>> Darren Ankney >> >>>> >> >>>> On Thu, Dec 28, 2023 at 1:29 PM CS <cs.temp.m...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> > there could either be a routing problem or a firewall problem >> >>>>> Those things it aint. I setup a tiny webserver with openssl on port >> >>>>> 8001 and I can telnet back and forth to each server just fine. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Kea isn't setting up what it is supposed to and isn't logging a >> >>>>> failure of any sort: >> >>>>> server1$ sudo netstat -lnp | grep 8001 >> >>>>> tcp 0 0 10.111.45.45:8001 0.0.0.0:* >> >>>>> LISTEN 1534068/kea-dhcp4 >> >>>>> >> >>>>> server2$ sudo netstat -lnp | grep 8001 >> >>>>> server2:$ systemctl status isc-kea-dhcp4-server.service >> >>>>> ● isc-kea-dhcp4-server.service - Kea IPv4 DHCP daemon >> >>>>> Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/isc-kea-dhcp4-server.service; >> >>>>> enabled; vendor preset: enabled) >> >>>>> Active: active (running) since Thu 2023-12-28 18:22:55 UTC; 3min >> >>>>> 24s ago >> >>>>> Docs: man:kea-dhcp4(8) >> >>>>> Main PID: 1466785 (kea-dhcp4) >> >>>>> Tasks: 5 (limit: 19052) >> >>>>> Memory: 2.8M >> >>>>> CPU: 48ms >> >>>>> CGroup: /system.slice/isc-kea-dhcp4-server.service >> >>>>> └─1466785 /usr/sbin/kea-dhcp4 -c /etc/kea/kea-dhcp4.conf >> >>>>> server2$ tail -n10 /var/log/kea/kea-dhcp4.log >> >>>>> 2023-12-28 18:22:55.427 INFO [kea-dhcp4.ha-hooks/1466785] >> >>>>> HA_SERVICE_STARTED started high availability service in load-balancing >> >>>>> mode as primary server >> >>>>> 2023-12-28 18:22:55.427 WARN [kea-dhcp4.dhcp4/1466785] >> >>>>> DHCP4_MULTI_THREADING_INFO enabled: no, number of threads: 0, queue >> >>>>> size: 0 >> >>>>> 2023-12-28 18:22:55.427 INFO [kea-dhcp4.dhcp4/1466785] DHCP4_STARTED >> >>>>> Kea DHCPv4 server version 2.2.0 started >> >>>>> 2023-12-28 18:23:06.441 INFO [kea-dhcp4.ha-hooks/1466785] >> >>>>> HA_STATE_TRANSITION server transitions from WAITING to SYNCING state, >> >>>>> partner state is WAITING >> >>>>> 2023-12-28 18:23:06.442 INFO [kea-dhcp4.ha-hooks/1466785] >> >>>>> HA_LEASE_UPDATES_DISABLED lease updates will not be sent to the >> >>>>> partner while in SYNCING state >> >>>>> 2023-12-28 18:23:06.442 INFO [kea-dhcp4.ha-hooks/1466785] >> >>>>> HA_SYNC_START starting lease database synchronization with server1 >> >>>>> 2023-12-28 18:23:06.444 INFO [kea-dhcp4.ha-hooks/1466785] >> >>>>> HA_LEASES_SYNC_LEASE_PAGE_RECEIVED received 0 leases from server1 >> >>>>> 2023-12-28 18:23:06.446 INFO [kea-dhcp4.ha-hooks/1466785] >> >>>>> HA_SYNC_SUCCESSFUL lease database synchronization with server1 >> >>>>> completed successfully in 3.534 ms >> >>>>> 2023-12-28 18:23:06.446 INFO [kea-dhcp4.ha-hooks/1466785] >> >>>>> HA_STATE_TRANSITION server transitions from SYNCING to READY state, >> >>>>> partner state is WAITING >> >>>>> 2023-12-28 18:23:06.446 INFO [kea-dhcp4.ha-hooks/1466785] >> >>>>> HA_LEASE_UPDATES_DISABLED lease updates will not be sent to the >> >>>>> partner while in READY state >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On Thu, Dec 28, 2023, 03:12 Darren Ankney <darren.ank...@gmail.com> >> >>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Hi, >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> My advice had nothing to do with micetro as I am not familiar with it >> >>>>>> at all. Micetro shouldn't have anything to do with HA functionality, >> >>>>>> however. If one server can reach the other on port 8001 but not the >> >>>>>> reverse, there could either be a routing problem or a firewall >> >>>>>> problem. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Thank you, >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Darren Ankney >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 10:50 PM CS <cs.temp.m...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Thanks for your input Thijs, tho I find your assessment confusing. >> >>>>>>> It certainly seems to affirm the observed behavior with my full >> >>>>>>> configuration but it flies against Darren's advice and my read of: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> // If enabling HA and multi-threading, the 8000 port is used >> >>>>>>> by the HA >> >>>>>>> // hook library http listener. When using HA hook library >> >>>>>>> with >> >>>>>>> // multi-threading to function, make sure the port used by >> >>>>>>> dedicated >> >>>>>>> // listener is different (e.g. 8001) than the one used by >> >>>>>>> CA. Note >> >>>>>>> // the commands should still be sent via CA. The dedicated >> >>>>>>> listener >> >>>>>>> // is specifically for HA updates only. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >Micetro is not using port 8000 : >> >>>>>>> >https://docs.menandmice.com/en/10.5/guides/implementation/firewall_ports/ >> >>>>>>> Doesn't this indicate it is? And as far as I can see in Micetro this >> >>>>>>> cannot be changed. So at a minimum the CA must be on port 8000 >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >This part is also important: >> >>>>>>> >https://docs.menandmice.com/en/10.5/guides/user-manual/dhcp_kea/#add-kea-hooks >> >>>>>>> A good point, however I suspect my deployment is failing before any >> >>>>>>> problem with this hook library. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> CS, cs.temp.m...@gmail.com >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Dec 2023 at 15:51, Thijs Blok <blokth...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Hi, >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Your control agent needs to run on the same port as the HA >> >>>>>>>> configuration parameters. >> >>>>>>>> Please make sure you don't listen on the localhost only which is >> >>>>>>>> the default for the control agent. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> "Control-agent": { >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> "http-host": "x.x.x.x", >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> "http-port": 8000, >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> .... >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Micetro is not using port 8000 : >> >>>>>>>> https://docs.menandmice.com/en/10.5/guides/implementation/firewall_ports/ >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> This part is also important: >> >>>>>>>> https://docs.menandmice.com/en/10.5/guides/user-manual/dhcp_kea/#add-kea-hooks >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Op wo 27 dec 2023 om 23:47 schreef CS <cs.temp.m...@gmail.com>: >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> telneting around it appears server1 can reach 8001 on itself but >> >>>>>>>>> not 2. server 2 can telnet 8001 on server 1 but not itself. >> >>>>>>>>> I see nothing logged that indicates a conflict tho and both of >> >>>>>>>>> these besides being on different subnets these servers are >> >>>>>>>>> virtually identical and firewall free. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> CS, cs.temp.m...@gmail.com >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Dec 2023 at 14:38, CS <cs.temp.m...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> They made it through. With minor changes (ip addresses, library >> >>>>>>>>>> locations, and logging) the files are accepted and daemons are >> >>>>>>>>>> running but... no dice. >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> server1$ tail -f /var/log/kea/kea-dhcp4.log >> >>>>>>>>>> 2023-12-27 22:24:48.486 INFO [kea-dhcp4.dhcpsrv/1495687] >> >>>>>>>>>> DHCPSRV_MEMFILE_LEASE_FILE_LOAD loading leases from file >> >>>>>>>>>> /var/lib/kea/kea-leases4.csv >> >>>>>>>>>> 2023-12-27 22:24:48.486 INFO [kea-dhcp4.dhcpsrv/1495687] >> >>>>>>>>>> DHCPSRV_MEMFILE_EXTRACT_EXTENDED_INFO4 extracting extended info >> >>>>>>>>>> saw 0 leases, extended info sanity checks modified 0 / updated 0 >> >>>>>>>>>> leases and 0 leases have relay or remote id >> >>>>>>>>>> 2023-12-27 22:24:48.486 INFO [kea-dhcp4.dhcpsrv/1495687] >> >>>>>>>>>> DHCPSRV_MEMFILE_LFC_SETUP setting up the Lease File Cleanup >> >>>>>>>>>> interval to 3600 sec >> >>>>>>>>>> 2023-12-27 22:24:48.486 WARN [kea-dhcp4.dhcpsrv/1495687] >> >>>>>>>>>> DHCPSRV_NO_SOCKETS_OPEN no interface configured to listen to DHCP >> >>>>>>>>>> traffic >> >>>>>>>>>> 2023-12-27 22:24:48.486 INFO [kea-dhcp4.ha-hooks/1495687] >> >>>>>>>>>> HA_LOCAL_DHCP_DISABLE local DHCP service is disabled while the >> >>>>>>>>>> server1 is in the WAITING state >> >>>>>>>>>> 2023-12-27 22:24:48.486 INFO [kea-dhcp4.ha-hooks/1495687] >> >>>>>>>>>> HA_SERVICE_STARTED started high availability service in >> >>>>>>>>>> load-balancing mode as primary server >> >>>>>>>>>> 2023-12-27 22:24:48.487 WARN [kea-dhcp4.dhcp4/1495687] >> >>>>>>>>>> DHCP4_MULTI_THREADING_INFO enabled: yes, number of threads: 2, >> >>>>>>>>>> queue size: 64 >> >>>>>>>>>> 2023-12-27 22:24:48.487 INFO [kea-dhcp4.dhcp4/1495687] >> >>>>>>>>>> DHCP4_STARTED Kea DHCPv4 server version 2.4.0 started >> >>>>>>>>>> 2023-12-27 22:24:58.498 WARN [kea-dhcp4.ha-hooks/1495687] >> >>>>>>>>>> HA_HEARTBEAT_COMMUNICATIONS_FAILED failed to send heartbeat to >> >>>>>>>>>> server2 (http://xxx:8001): Connection refused >> >>>>>>>>>> 2023-12-27 22:25:08.510 WARN [kea-dhcp4.ha-hooks/1495687] >> >>>>>>>>>> HA_HEARTBEAT_COMMUNICATIONS_FAILED failed to send heartbeat to >> >>>>>>>>>> server2 (http://xxx:8001): Connection refused >> >>>>>>>>>> 2023-12-27 22:25:18.519 WARN [kea-dhcp4.ha-hooks/1495687] >> >>>>>>>>>> HA_HEARTBEAT_COMMUNICATIONS_FAILED failed to send heartbeat to >> >>>>>>>>>> server2 (http://xxx5:8001): Connection refused >> >>>>>>>>>> 2023-12-27 22:25:28.531 WARN [kea-dhcp4.ha-hooks/1495687] >> >>>>>>>>>> HA_HEARTBEAT_COMMUNICATIONS_FAILED failed to send heartbeat to >> >>>>>>>>>> server2 (http://xxx:8001): Connection refused >> >>>>>>>>>> 2023-12-27 22:25:37.660 INFO [kea-dhcp4.commands/1495687] >> >>>>>>>>>> COMMAND_RECEIVED Received command 'ha-heartbeat' >> >>>>>>>>>> 2023-12-27 22:25:38.535 WARN [kea-dhcp4.ha-hooks/1495687] >> >>>>>>>>>> HA_HEARTBEAT_COMMUNICATIONS_FAILED failed to send heartbeat to >> >>>>>>>>>> server2 (http://xxx:8001): Connection refused >> >>>>>>>>>> 2023-12-27 22:25:47.674 INFO [kea-dhcp4.commands/1495687] >> >>>>>>>>>> COMMAND_RECEIVED Received command 'ha-heartbeat' >> >>>>>>>>>> 2023-12-27 22:25:48.546 WARN [kea-dhcp4.ha-hooks/1495687] >> >>>>>>>>>> HA_HEARTBEAT_COMMUNICATIONS_FAILED failed to send heartbeat to >> >>>>>>>>>> server2 (http://xxx:8001): Connection refused >> >>>>>>>>>> 2023-12-27 22:25:48.546 WARN [kea-dhcp4.ha-hooks/1495687] >> >>>>>>>>>> HA_COMMUNICATION_INTERRUPTED communication with server2 is >> >>>>>>>>>> interrupted >> >>>>>>>>>> 2023-12-27 22:25:48.546 INFO [kea-dhcp4.ha-hooks/1495687] >> >>>>>>>>>> HA_STATE_TRANSITION server transitions from WAITING to >> >>>>>>>>>> PARTNER-DOWN state, partner state is UNDEFINED >> >>>>>>>>>> 2023-12-27 22:25:48.547 INFO [kea-dhcp4.ha-hooks/1495687] >> >>>>>>>>>> HA_LEASE_UPDATES_DISABLED lease updates will not be sent to the >> >>>>>>>>>> partner while in PARTNER-DOWN state >> >>>>>>>>>> 2023-12-27 22:25:48.547 INFO [kea-dhcp4.ha-hooks/1495687] >> >>>>>>>>>> HA_LOCAL_DHCP_ENABLE local DHCP service is enabled while the >> >>>>>>>>>> server1 is in the PARTNER-DOWN state >> >>>>>>>>>> 2023-12-27 22:25:57.687 INFO [kea-dhcp4.commands/1495687] >> >>>>>>>>>> COMMAND_RECEIVED Received command 'ha-heartbeat' >> >>>>>>>>>> 2023-12-27 22:25:57.690 INFO [kea-dhcp4.commands/1495687] >> >>>>>>>>>> COMMAND_RECEIVED Received command 'dhcp-disable' >> >>>>>>>>>> 2023-12-27 22:25:57.691 INFO [kea-dhcp4.commands/1495687] >> >>>>>>>>>> COMMAND_RECEIVED Received command 'lease4-get-page' >> >>>>>>>>>> 2023-12-27 22:25:57.693 INFO [kea-dhcp4.commands/1495687] >> >>>>>>>>>> COMMAND_RECEIVED Received command 'ha-sync-complete-notify' >> >>>>>>>>>> 2023-12-27 22:25:58.557 WARN [kea-dhcp4.ha-hooks/1495687] >> >>>>>>>>>> HA_HEARTBEAT_COMMUNICATIONS_FAILED failed to send heartbeat to >> >>>>>>>>>> server2 (http://xxx:8001): Connection refused >> >>>>>>>>>> 2023-12-27 22:25:58.557 WARN [kea-dhcp4.ha-hooks/1495687] >> >>>>>>>>>> HA_COMMUNICATION_INTERRUPTED communication with server2 is >> >>>>>>>>>> interrupted >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> server2$ tail -f /var/log/kea/kea-dhcp4.log >> >>>>>>>>>> 2023-12-27 22:25:26.650 INFO [kea-dhcp4.dhcp4/1434251] >> >>>>>>>>>> DHCP4_CONFIG_COMPLETE DHCPv4 server has completed configuration: >> >>>>>>>>>> no IPv4 subnets!; DDNS: disabled >> >>>>>>>>>> 2023-12-27 22:25:26.650 INFO [kea-dhcp4.dhcpsrv/1434251] >> >>>>>>>>>> DHCPSRV_MEMFILE_DB opening memory file lease database: >> >>>>>>>>>> type=memfile universe=4 >> >>>>>>>>>> 2023-12-27 22:25:26.650 INFO [kea-dhcp4.dhcpsrv/1434251] >> >>>>>>>>>> DHCPSRV_MEMFILE_LEASE_FILE_LOAD loading leases from file >> >>>>>>>>>> /var/lib/kea/kea-leases4.csv.2 >> >>>>>>>>>> 2023-12-27 22:25:26.650 INFO [kea-dhcp4.dhcpsrv/1434251] >> >>>>>>>>>> DHCPSRV_MEMFILE_LEASE_FILE_LOAD loading leases from file >> >>>>>>>>>> /var/lib/kea/kea-leases4.csv >> >>>>>>>>>> 2023-12-27 22:25:26.650 INFO [kea-dhcp4.dhcpsrv/1434251] >> >>>>>>>>>> DHCPSRV_MEMFILE_LFC_SETUP setting up the Lease File Cleanup >> >>>>>>>>>> interval to 3600 sec >> >>>>>>>>>> 2023-12-27 22:25:26.650 WARN [kea-dhcp4.dhcpsrv/1434251] >> >>>>>>>>>> DHCPSRV_NO_SOCKETS_OPEN no interface configured to listen to DHCP >> >>>>>>>>>> traffic >> >>>>>>>>>> 2023-12-27 22:25:26.650 INFO [kea-dhcp4.ha-hooks/1434251] >> >>>>>>>>>> HA_LOCAL_DHCP_DISABLE local DHCP service is disabled while the >> >>>>>>>>>> server2 is in the WAITING state >> >>>>>>>>>> 2023-12-27 22:25:26.650 INFO [kea-dhcp4.ha-hooks/1434251] >> >>>>>>>>>> HA_SERVICE_STARTED started high availability service in >> >>>>>>>>>> load-balancing mode as secondary server >> >>>>>>>>>> 2023-12-27 22:25:26.650 WARN [kea-dhcp4.dhcp4/1434251] >> >>>>>>>>>> DHCP4_MULTI_THREADING_INFO enabled: no, number of threads: 0, >> >>>>>>>>>> queue size: 0 >> >>>>>>>>>> 2023-12-27 22:25:26.650 INFO [kea-dhcp4.dhcp4/1434251] >> >>>>>>>>>> DHCP4_STARTED Kea DHCPv4 server version 2.2.0 started >> >>>>>>>>>> 2023-12-27 22:25:57.690 INFO [kea-dhcp4.ha-hooks/1434251] >> >>>>>>>>>> HA_STATE_TRANSITION server transitions from WAITING to SYNCING >> >>>>>>>>>> state, partner state is PARTNER-DOWN >> >>>>>>>>>> 2023-12-27 22:25:57.690 INFO [kea-dhcp4.ha-hooks/1434251] >> >>>>>>>>>> HA_LEASE_UPDATES_DISABLED lease updates will not be sent to the >> >>>>>>>>>> partner while in SYNCING state >> >>>>>>>>>> 2023-12-27 22:25:57.690 INFO [kea-dhcp4.ha-hooks/1434251] >> >>>>>>>>>> HA_SYNC_START starting lease database synchronization with server1 >> >>>>>>>>>> 2023-12-27 22:25:57.693 INFO [kea-dhcp4.ha-hooks/1434251] >> >>>>>>>>>> HA_LEASES_SYNC_LEASE_PAGE_RECEIVED received 0 leases from server1 >> >>>>>>>>>> 2023-12-27 22:25:57.695 INFO [kea-dhcp4.ha-hooks/1434251] >> >>>>>>>>>> HA_SYNC_SUCCESSFUL lease database synchronization with server1 >> >>>>>>>>>> completed successfully in 3.877 ms >> >>>>>>>>>> 2023-12-27 22:25:57.695 INFO [kea-dhcp4.ha-hooks/1434251] >> >>>>>>>>>> HA_STATE_TRANSITION server transitions from SYNCING to READY >> >>>>>>>>>> state, partner state is PARTNER-DOWN >> >>>>>>>>>> 2023-12-27 22:25:57.695 INFO [kea-dhcp4.ha-hooks/1434251] >> >>>>>>>>>> HA_LEASE_UPDATES_DISABLED lease updates will not be sent to the >> >>>>>>>>>> partner while in READY state >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> CS, cs.temp.m...@gmail.com >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Dec 2023 at 11:22, Darren Ankney >> >>>>>>>>>> <darren.ank...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> See attached four files: >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> ca-server1.json (config for kea-ctrl-agent) >> >>>>>>>>>>> ca-server2.json (config for kea-ctrl-agent) >> >>>>>>>>>>> dhcp4-server1.json (config for kea-dhcp4) >> >>>>>>>>>>> dhcp4-server2.json (config for kea-dhcp4) >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> These files use port 8000 for kea-ctrl-agent and 8001 for >> >>>>>>>>>>> kea-dhcp4 on >> >>>>>>>>>>> version 2.4.0. They don't do anything other than setup the >> >>>>>>>>>>> heartbeats >> >>>>>>>>>>> for HA (in fact you don't even need to run the control agent as >> >>>>>>>>>>> Kea is >> >>>>>>>>>>> communicating directly). Heartbeats are sent back and forth on >> >>>>>>>>>>> port >> >>>>>>>>>>> 8001 as expected. Can you give these a try and see if they work >> >>>>>>>>>>> (in >> >>>>>>>>>>> testing of course, they won't serve any clients)? I'm genuinely >> >>>>>>>>>>> curious if they work. Yours should work (unless there is some >> >>>>>>>>>>> problem >> >>>>>>>>>>> with the certificates or something). I didn't notice any reason >> >>>>>>>>>>> why >> >>>>>>>>>>> they wouldn't. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Darren Ankney >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> PS: I'm not sure if these attachments will make it through to >> >>>>>>>>>>> the list. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 7:16 AM CS <cs.temp.m...@gmail.com> >> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > Kea 2.4.0 >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > On Wed, Dec 27, 2023, 03:18 Darren Ankney >> >>>>>>>>>>> > <darren.ank...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> Hi, >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> If I may ask, what version of Kea are you using? Some >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> defaults have >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> changed across versions. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> Thank you, >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> Darren Ankney >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 4:31 PM CS <cs.temp.m...@gmail.com> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >Please describe what you mean by "it doesn't work". >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > I mean I get a pretty useless error: "Unable to connect to >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > Kea Control Agent." >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > it might be be best to ask Men & Mice about "micetro" and >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > how best to set things >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > I will at some point, when I find a resource with them. But >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > there are two players in this and since kea isn't behaving >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > as expected like you, I and the docs said. I'm starting >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > here. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >It actually SHOULDN'T work >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > That's my read on it too. But here's proof. The CA config >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > for one server. It matches for the other server except >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > certs and ip addresses obv. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "Control-agent": { >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "http-host": "xxx.xx1.xxx.xxx", >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "trust-anchor": "Certificate_Autority.pem", >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "cert-file": "ca1_cert.pem", >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "key-file": "ca1_key.pem", >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "cert-required": true, >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "http-port": 8000, >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "authentication": { >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "type": "basic", >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "realm": "kea-control-agent", >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "clients": [{ >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "user": "baduser", >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "password": "badpassword", >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > }] >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > }, >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > And the dhcp4 config, likewise only the small differences >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > between the two servers >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "hooks-libraries": [{ >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "library": >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/kea/hooks/libdhcp_lease_cmds.so", >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "parameters": {} >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > },{ >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "library" : >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/kea/hooks/libdhcp_ha.so", >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "parameters": { >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "high-availability": [{ >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "this-server-name": >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "server1.org.org", >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "mode": >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "load-balancing", >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "heartbeat-delay": >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > 10000, >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "max-response-delay": 60000, >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "max-ack-delay": >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > 5000, >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "max-unacked-clients": 0, >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "require-client-certs": true, >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "trust-anchor": >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "Certificate_Autority.pem", >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "auto-failover": >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > true, >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "peers": [{ >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "name": >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "server1.org.org", >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "url": >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "http://xxx.xx1.xxx.xxx:8000/", >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "cert-file": "dhcp1_cert.pem", >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "key-file": >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "dhcp1_key.pem", >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "basic-auth-user": "baduser", >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "basic-auth-password": "badpassword", >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "role": >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "primary", >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > },{ >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "name": >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "server2.org.org", >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "url": >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "http://xxx.xx2.xxx.xxx:8000/", >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "cert-file": "dhcp2_cert.pem", >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "key-file": >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "dhcp2_key.pem", >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "role": >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "secondary", >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "basic-auth-user": "baduser", >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > "basic-auth-password": "badpassword", >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > }] >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > }] >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > low and behold it runs. The same nature of daemon status >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > and logs on the other server. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > $ sudo systemctl restart isc-kea-ctrl-agent.service >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > isc-kea-dhcp4-server.service >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > $ sudo systemctl status isc-kea-ctrl-agent.service >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > isc-kea-dhcp4-server.service >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > ● isc-kea-ctrl-agent.service - Kea Control Agent >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > Loaded: loaded >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > (/lib/systemd/system/isc-kea-ctrl-agent.service; enabled; >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > vendor preset: enabled) >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > Active: active (running) since Tue 2023-12-26 20:57:29 >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > UTC; 11s ago >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > Docs: man:kea-ctrl-agent(8) >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > Main PID: 1393724 (kea-ctrl-agent) >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > Tasks: 5 (limit: 19052) >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > Memory: 2.5M >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > CPU: 26ms >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > CGroup: /system.slice/isc-kea-ctrl-agent.service >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > └─1393724 /usr/sbin/kea-ctrl-agent -c >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > /etc/kea/kea-ctrl-agent.conf >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > Dec 26 20:57:29 kea1 systemd[1]: Started Kea Control Agent. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > ● isc-kea-dhcp4-server.service - Kea DHCPv4 Service >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > Loaded: loaded >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > (/lib/systemd/system/isc-kea-dhcp4-server.service; enabled; >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > vendor preset: enabled) >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > Active: active (running) since Tue 2023-12-26 20:57:29 >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > UTC; 11s ago >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > Docs: man:kea-dhcp4(8) >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > Main PID: 1393730 (kea-dhcp4) >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > Tasks: 9 (limit: 19052) >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > Memory: 4.5M >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > CPU: 96ms >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > CGroup: /system.slice/isc-kea-dhcp4-server.service >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > └─1393730 /usr/sbin/kea-dhcp4 -c >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > /etc/kea/kea-dhcp4.conf >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > Dec 26 20:57:29 kea1 systemd[1]: >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > isc-kea-dhcp4-server.service: Deactivated successfully. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > Dec 26 20:57:29 kea1 systemd[1]: Stopped Kea DHCPv4 Service. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > Dec 26 20:57:29 kea1 systemd[1]: >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > isc-kea-dhcp4-server.service: Consumed 1min 28.504s CPU >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > time. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > Dec 26 20:57:29 kea1 systemd[1]: Started Kea DHCPv4 Service. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > $ tail -n10 /var/log/kea/kea-ctrl-agent.log >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > 2023-12-26 20:59:53.827 INFO >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > [kea-ctrl-agent.ctrl-agent/1393724] >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > CTRL_AGENT_COMMAND_RECEIVED command ha-heartbeat received >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > from remote address xxx.xxx2.xxx.xxx >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > 2023-12-26 20:59:53.828 INFO >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > [kea-ctrl-agent.ctrl-agent/1393724] >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > CTRL_AGENT_COMMAND_FORWARDED command ha-heartbeat >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > successfully forwarded to the service dhcp4 from remote >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > address xxx.xx2.xxx.xxx >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > 2023-12-26 21:00:03.843 INFO [kea-ctrl-agent.auth/1393724] >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > HTTP_CLIENT_REQUEST_AUTHORIZED received HTTP request >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > authorized for 'baduser' >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > 2023-12-26 21:00:03.843 INFO >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > [kea-ctrl-agent.commands/1393724] COMMAND_RECEIVED Received >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > command 'ha-heartbeat' >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > 2023-12-26 21:00:03.843 INFO >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > [kea-ctrl-agent.ctrl-agent/1393724] >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > CTRL_AGENT_COMMAND_RECEIVED command ha-heartbeat received >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > from remote address xxx.xxx2.xxx.xxx >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > 2023-12-26 21:00:03.844 INFO >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > [kea-ctrl-agent.ctrl-agent/1393724] >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > CTRL_AGENT_COMMAND_FORWARDED command ha-heartbeat >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > successfully forwarded to the service dhcp4 from remote >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > address xxx.xxx2.xxx.xxx >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > 2023-12-26 21:00:13.859 INFO [kea-ctrl-agent.auth/1393724] >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > HTTP_CLIENT_REQUEST_AUTHORIZED received HTTP request >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > authorized for 'baduser' >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > 2023-12-26 21:00:13.859 INFO >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > [kea-ctrl-agent.commands/1393724] COMMAND_RECEIVED Received >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > command 'ha-heartbeat' >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > 2023-12-26 21:00:13.859 INFO >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > [kea-ctrl-agent.ctrl-agent/1393724] >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > CTRL_AGENT_COMMAND_RECEIVED command ha-heartbeat received >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > from remote address xxx.xxx2.xxx.xxx >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > 2023-12-26 21:00:13.860 INFO >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > [kea-ctrl-agent.ctrl-agent/1393724] >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > CTRL_AGENT_COMMAND_FORWARDED command ha-heartbeat >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > successfully forwarded to the service dhcp4 from remote >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > address xxx.xxx2.xxx.xxx >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > $ tail -n10 /var/log/kea/kea-dhcp4.log >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > 2023-12-26 20:58:53.728 INFO [kea-dhcp4.commands/1393730] >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > COMMAND_RECEIVED Received command 'ha-heartbeat' >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > 2023-12-26 20:59:03.745 INFO [kea-dhcp4.commands/1393730] >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > COMMAND_RECEIVED Received command 'ha-heartbeat' >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > 2023-12-26 20:59:13.762 INFO [kea-dhcp4.commands/1393730] >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > COMMAND_RECEIVED Received command 'ha-heartbeat' >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > 2023-12-26 20:59:23.777 INFO [kea-dhcp4.commands/1393730] >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > COMMAND_RECEIVED Received command 'ha-heartbeat' >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > 2023-12-26 20:59:33.793 INFO [kea-dhcp4.commands/1393730] >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > COMMAND_RECEIVED Received command 'ha-heartbeat' >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > 2023-12-26 20:59:43.811 INFO [kea-dhcp4.commands/1393730] >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > COMMAND_RECEIVED Received command 'ha-heartbeat' >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > 2023-12-26 20:59:53.827 INFO [kea-dhcp4.commands/1393730] >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > COMMAND_RECEIVED Received command 'ha-heartbeat' >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > 2023-12-26 21:00:03.844 INFO [kea-dhcp4.commands/1393730] >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > COMMAND_RECEIVED Received command 'ha-heartbeat' >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > 2023-12-26 21:00:13.859 INFO [kea-dhcp4.commands/1393730] >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > COMMAND_RECEIVED Received command 'ha-heartbeat' >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > 2023-12-26 21:00:23.875 INFO [kea-dhcp4.commands/1393730] >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > COMMAND_RECEIVED Received command 'ha-heartbeat' >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > And changing the CA or the server HA paramersts to port >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > 8001 without changing the other (and the other server >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > results in "connection refused" logs. It obv wants the CA >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > port to match the HA parameters port despite what we and >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > the documentation suggests... >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > CS, cs.temp.m...@gmail.com >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > On Mon, 25 Dec 2023 at 02:45, Darren Ankney >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > <darren.ank...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Hi, >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> It actually SHOULDN'T work to set your control agent and >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> multi-threaded HA listener to the same port as only one of >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> the >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> applications should be able to setup a listener on that >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> port. Please >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> describe what you mean by "it doesn't work". I'm thinking >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> it might be >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> be best to ask Men & Mice about "micetro" and how best to >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> set things >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> up there. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Thank you, >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Darren Ankney >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 6:47 PM CS >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> <cs.temp.m...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > Hi all, >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > Moving on from my failure to start and logging issues >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > (thank you for your help btw!) I now don't have my >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > heartbeat/control_agent working correctly. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > It works fine so long as I set the ports of my control >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > agents and ha hook parameters to be the same (IE 8000 or >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > 8001) >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > However I am unable to tie the tiny cluster into >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > micetro, probably because the CA port is occupied with >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > HA heartbeats? >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > Looking to these examples: >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > https://github.com/isc-projects/kea/tree/master/doc/examples/template-ha-mt-tls >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > Documentation points out >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > //This specifies the port CA will listen on. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > // If enabling HA and multi-threading, the 8000 >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > port is used by the HA >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > // hook library http listener. When using HA >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > hook library with >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > // multi-threading to function, make sure the >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > port used by dedicated >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > // listener is different (e.g. 8001) than the >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > one used by CA. Note >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > // the commands should still be sent via CA. The >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > dedicated listener >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > // is specifically for HA updates only. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > However, how to have a dedicated port for HA and a >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > different one for CA escapes me. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > CS, cs.temp.m...@gmail.com >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > -- >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > ISC funds the development of this software with paid >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > support subscriptions. 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