Good morning all. I feel the need to jump in now and hope to help. The Copenhagen hole that Devon is speaking about is a technique only (as far as I know?) used in Tønder lace. It is worked on a diamond shaped pricking and is worked from the top down one side and then down the second side. I have seen holes worked in half stitch (CT), honeycomb stitch (CTT), and linen or cloth stitch (CTC). Each give a totally different effect. My personal preference is the honeycomb stitch (CTT). I think that the webbing is more attractive in CTT. They can be pinned with the webbing from the CTT or which ever you choose on the inside (most often) or the webbing on the outside (not so much). There are samples of this last one in my latest book. (Tallies and Pin Chains) For those of you with a copy of the book, on page 76 the holes are worked in Linen or cloth stitch (CTC) and pinned on the inside of the hole. In class we use the honeycomb stitch and pin on the outside. (other than this piece!) The process of doing the hole is the same regardless of how many pins are on each quarter of the hole. I have seen Copenhagen holes with 4 pins on each quarter from top pin to widest point pin up to 7 pins in the same area. The process is the same. The write up in the last book (mentioned above) I think is logical. Other differences between Bucks Point and Tønder are the way the gimp is moved in the piece and the way the valleys are worked. Having said that, I also think that we want to have ârulesâ for all laces. âThis is always worked this way and that is always worked that way.â I have found through years of working with Tønder lace that this is not the case. Sadly, because we are only dealing with samples or bits of the laces we have no way of knowing _for sure_ one way or the other what the thoughts of the designer or the lace maker were. These two people were not normally the same person. So when I do reconstructions, IF I have a sample with more than one repeat of the lace the chances are good that all of the repeats are different. Some times drastically, some times very subtlety. But the question is always: What is the inspiration of the designer? Or is it the lacemaker that chooses the ârightâ pattern? Is the lacemaker given the pricking and then told to âmake itâ and she/he gets to choose if that section of diamond shaped hole is a spider, a diamond, in half stitch or whole? a Copenhagen hole? So many choices.... And who are we to say that a diamond shape with 5 holes from top pin to widest point pin is always a spider? Or a half stitch diamond? or a linen/cloth stitch diamond? Or for that matter a Copenhagen hole? On the design end... once you do a sample of a piece, even torchon lace, if you look at the finished piece some times you will choose to make something different in an area because to your eye it will look better. My personal opinion of the piece that Devon posted the other day is that although the head side motif is traditional Tønder that the piece on a whole is a mix of different laces. That or it is just very disjointed as a design. We have confirmed that the head side is in fact a traditional Tønder design. Pre 1900. Ok Iâve blithered on for long enough. Hope this was helpful. bobbi
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