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> What icing experiences have others encountered? another point to remember about ice, if you see it on windshield or wing, there is MORE on the tail along with all the aft CG issues this causes) http://rob.com/pra/ice/ if your tail is like most, it sticks out alittle and one can feel it start to bridge with ice.. (and its VERY hard to break if you let it get fully bridged) http://rob.com/ryan/ the first sign of ice in the 4 is a reduction in cruse speed, at this point take immediate action to leave the icing.. pls, it can get scary very fast so get out of that layer right away.. -- IRS: We've got what it takes to take what you've got! http://lp.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/mkaye/maillist.html LML Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please send your photos and drawings to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>