I agree totally. I think the report tool should be used for personal reports
for either archiving or editing purposes, and a totally separate program
needs to be used for publishing. Naturally users of the program would like
an all-in-one solution, but Microsoft can't even get their suite of office
apps to play nice together. I think the Legacy programmers should stick to
what they do best, creating the best genealogy program available. That's why
I suggested a partnership with another group whose specialty is publishing.
A good team would be unbeatable. All that needs to be done is to create
hooks between the two so that there is a seamless interface between what
Legacy produces and what the document writer needs.

I think that for Millennia to get wrapped around the documentation axle
would detract from what they need to be doing, keeping the best program as
the best.

Jim


On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 5:18 AM, Ron Ferguson <rnldfe...@tiscali.co.uk>wrote:

> Jim,
>
> Whilst I broadly agree with you comments regarding the Legacy reporting
> (except for the blank page which I have never experienced) as I have said
> before, it is my belief that those asking for what would amount to a fully
> fledged word processor as part of the program are asking for far too much.
> The total size of the package would be far too big for many, and why should
> Legacy reinvent the wheel when it is there in Word, Open Office and a number
> of other programs.
>
> If it is ever done then let us add onto the list a fully fledged web page
> designer, after all, why should the web creation section of users be not
> have an equivalent tool for their chosen method of publication. Naturally,
> it should have the attributes of Dreamweaver or Front Page in order to meet
> all the demands which may be required. It shouldn't really be any bigger
> than a word processor and the total package should come in at not a lot more
> than 200MB.
>
> Pity that this is too big for Africa and the rural areas of many other
> countries (including the USA) where dial up is on the only access, but those
> of us with broadband should be fine. Or maybe we should have several
> different versions with escalating prices in order to meet all the available
> customisations.
>
> Please don't think that I am suggesting for one minute, Jim, that this is
> your view, I feel sure that it isn't. In one form or an other this argument
> has been going on for years, so please excuse the rant :-)
>
> Ron Ferguson
>
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Walton
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Sent: 07 October 2009 20:42
>
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] No report indices in text format, & other bugs in
> reports
>
>
> A pdf file is an image, similar to a jpg file. If it is created from a text
> file it has a text layer that can be indexed and modified, etc. It's quite
> easy to move a text or rtf file into pdf format, but a totally different
> matter to go the other way.
>
> I think the problem is that Legacy is a genealogical tool, not a reporting
> tool. The reporting section is very cumbersome and has no real formatting
> capabilities beyond the bare minimum. It might be better for them to partner
> with another company/program for the reporting functions. So far the main
> use I've seen in the report feature is to dump reports to the printer for
> proofreading and database corrections. I could never conceive of using it to
> create a document for publication.
>
> I did try to create one rtf report and got a single page that told me I
> could now import into my word processor and create an index because all the
> headings used heading tags. Very convenient, but the rest of the report was
> blank. (grin)
>
> Jim
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 1:21 AM, CE Wood <wood...@msn.com> wrote:
>
> The problem / BUG is that when the report is Previewed or in PDF, The
> Index/Indices is shown/printed.  When it is Text or RTF (if allowed) the
> Index/Indices are NOT!
>
> If a report shows something in Preview, it needs to print it in ALL
> permissible formats!
>
>
> CE
>
> From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
> Of Jim Walton
> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 5:08 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] No report indices in text format, & other bugs in
> reports
>
>
> It seems to be designed that way. If you go through each of the reports you
> will see what printing options are available on the right, under the image
> of the printer. Family  and descendant will do text, html, and pdf.
> Pedigree
> will only do pdf. Not sure why they aren't available in rtf because it is
> certainly capable of doing it. My plan is to do all my writing in Word, and
> importing a pdf of group sheets, etc. as images into the document. I'm just
> disappointed that I can't create an rtf of the source report so that I
> could
> then create a bibliography and reference that in my text.
>
> Jim
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 7:23 AM, CE Wood <wood...@msn.com> wrote:
> I am trying to produce Individual, Family, Ancestor, Descendant, and
> Lineage
> Reports.  When I choose Text file or HTML (there is no option for RTF), the
> file is produced without any indices, even though both Name and Location
> indices have been selected and do appear in Preview and PDF.
>
> Also, when using Publishing Center, the HTML report includes only the first
> chapter of the book even though Preview and PDF include all the chapters.
>
> And, in the book, the Name Index for the book includes ONLY the names from
> the first chapter.
>
>
> CE
>
>
>
>
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