I can't speak for Chris, but you don't make me nervous because you're quite
open and you don't drive any issues that may have business implications.

On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Frederik Ramm <frede...@remote.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
>   I'm sort of sick of allegations that what I say and do in the community
> is somehow tainted by myself doing business in OSM. Here's a quote from talk
> a while ago:
>
> Chris Browet wrote:
>
>> The fact that many key players (SteveC, Frederik, Richard(?)) in the
>> project also have commercial interests in the OSM data also make me nervous
>> and doubtful.
>>
>
> I assure you it does not have to make you nervous. Just because someone
> earns money doesn't automatically make him an asshole with no morals.
> Basically, everyone who writes what you wrote above somehow seems to want to
> say: "We must always consider that he might be lying to us because he wants
> to make more money."
>
> This makes me sad; I spend a lot of time with OSM stuff, and I could
> certainly be making a lot more money if I'd take a job in some IT
> consultancy. But I chose to work in OSM because that way I get to do what I
> like. Hear? WHAT I LIKE. I have found a way to earn a living from doing what
> I like, and helping to move the project forward while I'm doing that.
>
> Until now, I have had exactly one prospective client who, after I had
> explained the CC-BY-SA to him, want away with a "no thank you", and I have
> had exactly one prospective client for whom the CC-BY-SA would have been
> fine but his project wouldn't work with the ODbL (forcing him to release a
> database he would not have wanted to release), so he went away too.
>
> So the ODbL isn't really better or worse for business - it depends, or at
> least that's my view.
>
> In a way, of course, I have a "business interest" in OSM growing and
> becoming better, but can you hold that against me?
>
> You could also say that I have a "business interest" in the license matter
> being resolved one way or the other becaus that saves me from having to
> explain *two* licenses to every prospective customer which is a bit painful
> sometimes.
>
> And as for me being a "key player" - I am writing a lot on the lists, I am
> mapping a bit, I have written some software, and I am on the data working
> group. I am not essential to anything OSM does, don't hold an OSMF post (nor
> have I ever sought one)...
>
> Bye
> Frederik
>
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