On 09/04/2010 11:06 AM, Simon Ward wrote:
On Fri, Sep 03, 2010 at 10:54:50AM +0100, Rob Myers wrote:
The contributor terms are now the sticking point for many people against
the ODbL+DbCL+CT combination, and these are not just people against a
licence change from CC by-sa, but people who are in principle happy with
the licence change.
This is a change that cannot be sugar-coated. It is needed in order
to ensure that if future changes become necessary they can be made.
I'm sorry to be harsh but I think that concentrating on the risks of
the new CTs rather than the risks they are meant to address shows a
failure of perspective.
I don’t think that’s harsh; I think it’s wrong. ;)
I'm sorry, I was a bit of a dick in that email. I apologize.
I’m also not intending that the CTs become something that allows OSM to
be gradually rendered ineffective. From my side of this fake wall you
have put up, I am indeed intending that they allow OSM to be effective,
and continue to allow OSM to be effective, without over extending grants
to a third party. If I could make it happen without even having to have
a third party involved, I would. Unfortunately, I think it is also
beyond possibility.
Over-extensive grants create the possibility of mis-use, yes, that is a
valid concern. I think it needs addressing outside of the CTs, though,
at the level of the organization's structure and rules. I'm not just
saying that to move the grounds of the debate, I think that it is the
best way of addressing the family of concerns about what happens if OSMF
were to have (or try to cause) problems.
And if people are worried that future changes will not be to their
liking they need to get involved in the process more actively.
I’m worried that proposed changes in the very near future aren’t to my
liking. Am I not actively involved now?
You are. I apologize, that wasn't really aimed at you and I shouldn't
have put it in a response to something you wrote.
- Rob.
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