Hi,
On 07/17/2012 01:01 PM, fk270...@fantasymail.de wrote:
- agreeing mapper's node disappeared
http://osm.mapki.com/history/node.php?id=60580009
Version 3 of this node (51.5400973, 9.9564636) was last edited by
agreeing user Sasude. By removing this precisely located node, an
intersection of four streets was destroyed.
I see no legal implication here.
- street has disappeared completely
The southern part of Dahlmannstraße with bus route No. 6 has
disappeared completely though it was last edited by agreers.
No legal implication either.
- intersections were cut off - ODbL history ignores agreeing users
http://osm.mapki.com/history/way.php?id=8091768
Both intersections were cut off though these nodes were last edited
by an agreer. Undediced mapper Hotte Degoe has created an empty line
without any tags. All tags were added by agreeing users, all points
have been moved by agreeing users as well. Only v1 should be hidden,
all other versions by agreeing mappers should be visible.
Only the tags of the additional versions could be shown; not the
geometry. But I agree with you that it would be desirable to actually
show the names of the participating mappers even if we cannot list
details of their work. This is why we're making a distinction between
"Redaction 2" and "Redaction 1". We plan to list basic meta data for
"Redaction 2" type events, see also:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/redactions/2
- decliner included in ODbL history
http://osm.mapki.com/history/way.php?id=60922724
Lobelt has declined the new contributor terms so far mainly for
political reasons, but he still appears in the "clean" ODbL history
because he has removed a senseless tag. Removing a tag does not
constitute a copyright, but mentioning him in the history is an
infringement of moral rights.
No it isn't.
- OSMF Redaction Account claims to be the only author
http://osm.mapki.com/history/way.php?id=8573909
Since the OSMF Redaction Account did not create any way, he cannot
pretend to be the author of any way.
It doesn't. You are just reading it wrong, or looking at the wrong web
page. Compare: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/8573909/history
- ODbL history ignores too many agreeing users (2nd example)
http://osm.mapki.com/history/way.php?id=8094092 Undediced mapper
Hotte Degoe has created an empty line without any tags. All tags were
added by agreeing users, all points have been moved by agreeing users
as well. Only v1 should be hidden, all other versions by agreeing
mappers should be visible.
The bot always considers a node membership in a way to be copyrightable,
no matter if that node has been moved or not. Had you thought about this
earlier and contributed a test case - or even taken part in the
constructive discussion - then maybe this could have been done differently.
These seven examples are quite simple cases without any
complications. I am sure that some of you will be able to find many
more examples where the bot has made severe errors.
None of these errors are "severe", and none have any legal implications
that I can see.
- OSMI should not ignore bot deletions Streets destroyed by the bot
(e.g. Dahlmannstraße in Göttingen) disappear on OSMI, so there is no
chance to check what the bot has destroyed, and why he did so.
I'm sure we'll find a good way of displaying bot edits. I made a post
about this on the dev list. Simply showing all bot deletions is not very
helpful though, because there is no way to get rid of such markings even
if the deleted data has long been replaced.
I object to your choice of the word "destroyed a street". The bot does
not destroy streets. It just prevents data from being published.
Hiding versions may be considered as breech of
Creative Commons license,
See above remark about "Redaction 1"/"Redaction 2". If you have any
Rails skills then your help is certainly welcome.
Bye
Frederik
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